[Bug 12633] USB detection of new storage devices fails

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Thu Jul 14 02:18:25 UTC 2005


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matt at eisgr.com changed:

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             Status|RESOLVED                    |UNCONFIRMED
         Resolution|NOTABUG                     |




------- Additional Comments From matt at eisgr.com  2005-07-14 03:18 UTC -------
KDE leaves that up to the OS, where (IMHO) it belongs.  KDE simply identifies
new mounts and places appropriate icons on the desktop and/or in the Devices
section (which seems broken in Kubuntu as well).

Why do something in Userspace something that could easily be done better by the
kernel?  Case in point:  My situation.  Something's dorked with the userspace
daemon, and the service is broken.  Why?  And does does the "udev/dbus/hald/gvm"
stack force the filesystems to automatically flush so the device can be removed
at any time?  And how about CDROM's not wanting to exit because you have one
hidden program continuing to latch onto it?  I have yet to see a desktop widget
which GUIfies a call to lsof to help Joe somebody get the darn CD out!

I honestly cannot think of a compelling reason *not* to leave this to the
kernel.  Please explain any valid reasoning.

Also, why doesn't hald/dbus/udev place an entry in /etc/fstab for simple
mounting or umounting, etc...?
gnome-volume-manager is not running in my Kubuntu environment (why would it?  ;)
 and when I use the "safely unmount" option, the device then disappears from KDE
since it doesn't really exist... forcing me to unplug and plug the device back in.

On SuSE 8.2, hotplug handled the device entry, and placed an entry in
/etc/fstab.  This allowed aly app or person to mount and umount at will. 

SuSE 9.1 added subfs to the mix, so not only could you have your entry, but you
could access and remove media at will (of course, it helped if you were done
using it).  One of the most frustrating things to explain to potential
Linux-converts is why they can't have their CD back, even though they can't
*see* the app that has a hold of it.  Sometimes it's a file-manager, others it's
a shell that is PWD= the media.

dbus is now running.  Apparently /etc/default/dbus-1 had issues and the daemon
failed to start.

The drive still fails to show up in media:/ (KDE "Media" view)

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