[Bug 301102] Re: no Xen-enabled kernel available in intrepid

[stevegt]

I beg to differ.  As far as I can tell from here and from Google, 
there is a bug in the decision-making process and/or public statements
surrounding Ubuntu's support of Xen. 

I run a mid-sized Xen infrastructure of mixed Debian and Ubuntu
machines.  Until intrepid came out, I was deprecating the Debian nodes
in favor of Ubuntu.  That's all ground to a halt now.  I'm still
waiting for linux-image-*-xen packages to be available in the 8.10
universe.  Xen support in Ubuntu appears to be being deprecated;
articles are now scattered all over the net about Ubuntu's support for
KVM at the expense of Xen -- I have yet to find any refutation of 
that.  So far the trajectory of this bug is reinforcing that
impression.  It's as if Mark Shuttleworth's interview about KVM
unintentionally shot Ubuntu Xen in the back.  Why would anyone want to
maintain the linux-image-*-xen packages if they think that
Shuttleworth himself doesn't like it?

KVM and Xen are orthogonal -- it almost looks like somehow, ever since 
Mark's interview, the Ubuntu community has got it in their heads that
data centers can switch back and forth between two completely
different virtualization platforms that meet different needs.  
"Supporting KVM" is not a great excuse for not providing support for
Xen.  It's like saying "we don't support Apache, because there's a
perfectly good HTTP server included in the python distribution".  It
makes no rational sense.

This has got to be causing damage to Ubuntu's user base.  In my own 
case, I'm considering the prospect of having to go back to Debian, 
even though I consider Ubuntu to be a much better distribution
otherwise.  Going backwards like that would be, well, outrageous.

Please tell me this is all a misunderstanding, and that the Xen 
packages currently missing from the intrepid repository are an
oversight.  Please tell me that there are actually plans in the works
for moving xen from universe to main -- that would make a lot of
sense, considering how critical both Ubuntu and Xen are becoming
in data centers.  


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no Xen-enabled kernel available in intrepid
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