<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>+1 for github. Makes barrier to entry very low. </div><div><br>On Jan 9, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Brandon Holtsclaw <<a href="mailto:me@brandonholtsclaw.com">me@brandonholtsclaw.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I dont have alot of time to reply now but would like to add my +1 as well for Github. I've gone over this a few times publicly on IRC so my stance should be pretty well known but I'll come back and add some bullet points as I have a bit of time.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Marco Ceppi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marco@ondina.co" target="_blank">marco@ondina.co</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Hi Jorge,<br>
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I think Github is a great place to look for developers given how
many upstreams keep their projects there and the overall existing
community of cultivated contributors. I can see it being a
potential sore spot in the near future when trying to woo new
contributors and having a seemingly superfluous roadblock like
learning an entire new workflow stand in the way of potential new
charm contributors.<br>
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Having experienced this (and sadly still struggling with this at
times) when I first got interested in contributing to Ubuntu, I
found that learning Bazaar after many years as a Git power user
was far more tedious than I would have wanted. Thankfully, I
conquered Bazaar but I fear others might not be as diligent.<br>
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In short +1 from me and I'll get the talks of workflow by
submitting the first pull request:
<a href="https://github.com/charms/mediawiki/pull/1" target="_blank">https://github.com/charms/mediawiki/pull/1</a><br>
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Thanks,<br>
Marco Ceppi<div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 01/04/2013 01:44 PM, Jorge O. Castro wrote:<br>
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<pre>Hi everyone,
I just got off a quick call with Kapil T, Mark Mims, Juan Negron, and
Clint Byrum where we were discussion some of the workflow issues with
charms and how we can lower the bar to entry to getting people to be
able to hack on charms. This quickly turned into what I'll summarize
as: "Why aren't we using github, a bunch of people always ask me after
a talk if we can use github and it's a turn off for people that they
have to learn lp/bzr."
Since this is the sort of thing that will have many opinions and
quickly grew out of the scope of a normal status call I thought it
prudent to bring to the list for discussion.
We do have our charms mirrored on <a href="http://github.com/charms" target="_blank">github.com/charms</a> and we have had
people submit pull requests. The problem is that we have two workflows
for submitting charms, the default launchpad process, and the github
one that we added after people kept asking about it.
So now the question I'd like to ask is:
"Do we feel that not using git and/or github is detrimental to our growth?"
On top of that we use Launchpad for code review and identity. We know
that the OpenStack community is using gerrit for
<a href="https://review.openstack.org" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org</a> and they are happy with it. We also have
to think about how this fits with the store in terms of curating the
store and so on.
I'm sure people will be really passionate about this so ... discuss!
--
Jorge Castro
Canonical Ltd.
<a href="http://juju.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">http://juju.ubuntu.com</a>
My 2 cents is: Many cloud oss projects use github, including things
that are really important use cases for juju, like rails, node,
mongodb, and so on, I'm in the "go where the upstreams and consumers
of the technology are." camp.
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