Juju-gui only show localhost as the deployment option

[Rick Harding]

Just to toss, out. JAAS [1] is built to be Juju as a Service across clouds
doing some of the extra work to enable users to have a single dashboard
across a wide array of clouds and regions. Give it a try and I'd love to
chat about any feedback on where JAAS does or doesn't fit for the needs
you're having.

1: https://jujucharms.com

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:59 AM fengxia <fxia1 at lenovo.com> wrote:

> Akshat,
>
> Just to chip in some of my thoughts on this since we (disclosure, I'm a
> researcher at Lenovo) have had extensive discussions on a similar use case
> and consequently come down to the same challenge as you are currently
> looking at.
>
> 1. Juju CLI allows user to select controller, which essentially leads to a
> particular cloud/provider (these two are 1-1 mapping). Therefore, in
> practice it already supports multi-cloud scenario (last time I counted 12
> clouds out of box including local LXD and manual). The catch is, of course,
> the manual step of selecting the proper controller.
>
> 2. There are two schools of thought -- whether to have Juju being more
> intelligent so to handle multiple clouds `automatically` (for example, in
> bundle YAML specify which cloud a charm should be deployed to, which is one
> step further than OS series), or using Juju as-is and utilize something
> else as a wrapper to facilitate such mixed-cloud automation. The former
> option minimize tech stack so there is one set of technology to learn and
> manage; the latter gives flexibility, mitigate vendor lock in... I think
> the theme is not new, so it's really a matter of design preference
>
> Juju team has done 90% of the heavy liftings. The former will require more
> in-depth of Juju knowledge, the latter requires less. I think the
> requirements, however, is clear, that there is a higher level of
> abstraction required above the current Juju existence so to drive this.
>
>
>
> On 08/30/2017 04:27 AM, Akshat Jiwan Sharma wrote:
>
> Thank you Feng,
>
> As I understand for now there is no way to use multiple providers with
> juju either with a GUI or command line.
>
> My goal is to be able to allow users to deploy charms (mostly
> wordpress/drupal/ghost) on a cloud of their choice. Anything that allows me
> to do this is acceptable. The only requirement is maximum cloud coverage.
> So for a multi cloud setup what options do I have?
>
> - Should I go for one controller per cloud setup?
> - Can juju api <https://godoc.org/github.com/juju/juju/api> help me write
> some custom code that'll allow me to do what I want? If so what should I be
> looking for in the documentation?
> - Since juju runs in an lxc  would it be a good idea to create clone
> containers that can switch the cloud environment on demand? Or would this
> cause more problems that it'll solve?
>
> Thank you once more for being patient with the questions and for all the
> answers! Much appreciated
>
> Best,
> Akshat
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 7:56 AM, fengxia <fxia1 at lenovo.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Akshat,
>>
>> Juju controller does not support multiple cloud/provider. It's like a
>> switch board, juju can only talk to one controller at a time.
>> However, I do think there are use case of supporting multiple clouds with
>> one orchestrator. I'm not sure whether juju team has sth like that on its
>> roadmap, or maybe using some other tools for the purpose?
>> On 08/29/2017 09:59 AM, Akshat Jiwan Sharma wrote:
>>
>> Is there a way I can configure multiple providers using the Juju-GUI?
>> Also is there a way I can configure cloud providers based on user access
>> roles? For example a user with access to a particular model can deploy only
>> to a specific cloud provider.
>>
>> If one controller can manage multiple clouds and one controller can have
>> many users then what is the mapping of the relationship between the users
>> and the clouds?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Akshat
>>
>>
>>
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