Promulgated charms (production readiness)

[Cory Johns]

I think this is a strong argument for creating an interface:nrpe layer to
make supporting this as easy as possible.  There was also discussion a long
time ago about creating a translation layer of sorts for supporting
multiple different monitoring solutions (like in the Puppet example).  I
think with layers and layer APIs that's now more possible than ever.

Once we have a simplified interface, I do think that the review process
should strongly recommend that monitoring support be included, though I
don't think we'll be able to make it a hard requirement.

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Tom Barber <tom at analytical-labs.com>
wrote:

> NRPE can be related as well, this is true. Maybe I misstated it a bit,
> I'll blame the jetlag ;)
>
> Put it this way, if a user is implementing a to-be promulgated charm, as a
> minimum (for those who expose such a thing) why not ensure the port is up
> and listening, not just the host ping, for those who have capability
> already in Nagios for a more in depth NPRE make sure its available for
> those who want to monitor it, procrunning as well for alarms.
>
> My point being, I guess, is considering how much Juju tries to do at an
> application level for sys admins, why shouldn't monitors.yaml be required
> OOTB?
>
> Don't get me wrong this was just a brief convo we had and I'm sure there
> are plenty of reasons against it, but monitoring, which is more than just
> "is my box alive" type monitoring, would seem pretty important and having
> people tack stuff on manually to a NPRE setup seems to get away from the
> Juju ethos somewhat.
>
> Tom
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> On 16 May 2016 at 14:52, Charles Butler <charles.butler at canonical.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I love it when you support my arguments and I'm too dense to pick up on
>> it Tim :D
>>
>>
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