Investigation workflow improvements with other tools

Govind Tatachari gtc2k7 at
Wed Jan 9 21:55:54 UTC 2013

+1 for github

Long Answer: Your footnote abt cloud OSS projects gravitating to github is
pat ON. Learning new github based workflows (though also have launchpad
acct) will help keep my bloodflow active in both openstack + ubuntu tracks.

-- juju lurker (mining for 'charm'ing stuff)

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Jorge O. Castro <jorge at> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I just got off a quick call with Kapil T, Mark Mims, Juan Negron, and
> Clint Byrum where we were discussion some of the workflow issues with
> charms and how we can lower the bar to entry to getting people to be
> able to hack on charms. This quickly turned into what I'll summarize
> as: "Why aren't we using github, a bunch of people always ask me after
> a talk if we can use github and it's a turn off for people that they
> have to learn lp/bzr."
> Since this is the sort of thing that will have many opinions and
> quickly grew out of the scope of a normal status call I thought it
> prudent to bring to the list for discussion.
> We do have our charms mirrored on and we have had
> people submit pull requests. The problem is that we have two workflows
> for submitting charms, the default launchpad process, and the github
> one that we added after people kept asking about it.
> So now the question I'd like to ask is:
> "Do we feel that not using git and/or github is detrimental to our growth?"
> On top of that we use Launchpad for code review and identity. We know
> that the OpenStack community is using gerrit for
> and they are happy with it. We also have
> to think about how this fits with the store in terms of curating the
> store and so on.
> I'm sure people will be really passionate about this so ... discuss!
> --
> Jorge Castro
> Canonical Ltd.
> My 2 cents is: Many cloud oss projects use github, including things
> that are really important use cases for juju, like rails, node,
> mongodb, and so on, I'm in the "go where the upstreams and consumers
> of the technology are." camp.
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