Charm Store Series and Ubuntu Release

[Gustavo Niemeyer]

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Clint Byrum <clint at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> However, asking for MySQL 5.6 is not all that unreasonable of an upgrade.
> Especially if they were to release it as GA right now, in a year it would
> be the one people are starting to migrate to. But we can't just make it
> the default, as that will break peoples' deployments. So we need to decide
> how and when to introduce breaking changes. Waiting 2 years is too long,

The point remains: never freeze doesn't mean do unreasonable upgrades.
LTS are also supposed to be stable for juju, and if experimenting with
new releases is wanted, pick a non-LTS follow up to play with.

> The overlay is meant to provide an easier way to use the dev releases.
> Its taken from the way Debian experimental works. Its likely that a large
> portion of the charms will "just work" in the new release, so we can
> just keep using the LTS charms without changing them and without going
> through the trouble of copying branches/merging/auto-pushing or anything.
> Just assume, if there's no charm X in this release of the charm store,
> then use charm X from the last LTS.

I'm -1 on this. If nobody tests and blesses something to be working in
a new release, let's not suggest it works and let people find out by
being burned that it doesn't. If we don't have the man power to
maintain inter-LTS releases, it's better to simply not do them than to
be optimistic and hope for the best. This would burn both the non-LTS
Ubuntu releases and juju itself for no good reason.


gustavo @ http://niemeyer.net