Ensemble community venues

Kapil Thangavelu kapil.thangavelu at canonical.com
Mon Apr 11 17:05:43 UTC 2011

Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of Fri Apr 08 15:42:07 -0400 2011:
> Ahmed, everything below sounds great... once there is an actual release.
> Ensemble team.. I know you've set goals for Budapest. How about one of them
> being to release a version where we don't expect the fundamental formula
> format to change. I'm already feeling the despair of having to rewrite all
> of Principia to work with the new hook semantics. We can't ask people
> to start writing formulas if thats going to happen again.
> Until there's a release, its just a research project.

I don't think we're ready to commit to a frozen formula spec yet. We'll need
to let things evolve to meet the needs of the community. That said we'll
definitely weigh compatibility concerns with any incompatible changes. If it
comes to it we can introduce formula spec versioning. 

On a related note, I think the ensemble team is going to need accept broader 
responsbility for maintaining principia through any formula/hook changes. Its 
effectively our only demo of functionality so making sure that's in good shape 
is key for new users.


> Excerpts from Ahmed Kamal's message of Fri Apr 08 09:34:47 -0700 2011:
> > Hi Ensemble masters,
> > 
> > Got a couple of points to discuss
> > 
> > 1- Wrt community communication channels, may I suggest the following (if 
> > it's not already the case)
> > #ubuntu-ensemble => For Developer discussions, core ensemble only
> > #ubuntu-cloud => For Ensemble "user" support and "formula writer" 
> > support and discussion
> > And the same for mailing lists (Core Dev on Ensemble 
> > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ensemble> and User/Formula 
> > discussion on Ubuntu-Cloud 
> > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-cloud>)
> > Rationale:
> > ===
> > - Anyone interested in Ensemble, is by definition interested/using 
> > "cloud" since that's the primary (and currently only) deployment target
> > - Ensemble is at the core of Ubuntu's cloud offering, thus anyone 
> > interested in cloud, would most likely benefit from exposure to ensemble
> > - I'd like to avoid fragmenting a young community, and leverage Ubuntu's 
> > current reach from "ubuntucloud" channels (Twitter 
> > <https://twitter.com/#%21/ubuntucloud> with 2.3k followers, and Facebook 
> > <https://www.facebook.com/ubuntucloud> with 1k 
> > followers<https://twitter.com/#%21/ubuntucloud> and the ubuntu-cloud 
> > list with 1.1k subscribers)
> > 
> > 2- I'd like to request holding a weekly irc meeting for the ensemble 
> > team with the purpose of updating the community on the status of 
> > ensemble (development done last week, TODO items of next week). The 
> > meeting would serve to keep interested community members on-top of 
> > happenings in the ensemble space, without having to read every commit 
> > ..etc. As well as be a chance for project members to discuss their 
> > ensemble formulas, how they can contribute to various aspects of the 
> > project ..etc. I would like to propose the meeting be held in 
> > #ubuntu-cloud every Wed at 18:00-UTC. The reason for choosing that time, 
> > is I had already been running a weekly cloud meeting at the time, but it 
> > could really benefit from more content and ensemble would be great for 
> > that. If you guys would like to change the time though, it's not a problem
> > 
> > Please throw +1s -1s or rotten tomatoes :)
> > Regards

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