<div dir="ltr">IMO, all-machines.log is a bad idea anyway (it duplicates what's in the log files already, and makes it very likely that the state machines will run out of disk space, since they're potentially aggregating hundreds or thousands of machines' logs, not to mention adding a lot of network overhead). I'd be happy to see it go away. However, I am not convinced that dropping text file logs in general is a good idea, so I'd love to hear what we're gaining by putting logs in Mongo.</div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:16 AM Aaron Bentley <<a href="mailto:aaron.bentley@canonical.com">aaron.bentley@canonical.com</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 > The main issue I can see is that once rsyslog based logging is > turned off we lose the all-machines.log file which some people and > systems no doubt rely on. The logs for an environment can of course > still be retrieved using the "juju debug-log" command. all-machines.log is one of many log files CI stores so that failures can be debugged afterwards. Aaron -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWKO+lAAoJEK84cMOcf+9hOZQH/2fK8vGs21NKFw4Q/FZ0covp Fb+Gjyla1wCVqmimzfxM4sXzBO84HJbBU35B6lAjtPSLdOfC9ywzD/6+Q9r51DLH 9r2MplY1NkqbaGNiqMG7bd8NU94HnhHj+/E8DfAOiYblpE+uVa2ve4bou5FHdMq3 wxfw9DfFcmVCJMabAJDKF9ix07iWF/wl5eKNLwUxiidFh//FT8ij14Ra6a00xBA4 Au45hIIbZdjvIell/YfngZrEocqxj2/9aaW2KzByfVYmIMp0xbjje6+lZMnKFBN4 ozpt5tMVsN6sg7k9j7QA7EelCSnShVbR2DbnpyyFMSLIbcCmvPL1WENGWIZYRss= =YyCF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Juju-dev mailing list <a href="mailto:Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju-dev" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju-dev</a> </blockquote></div>