local provider

[Adam Stokes]

This would also help emphasize our single install option for the
OpenStack installer to be meant for "trying" out Juju and OpenStack.

http://ubuntu-cloud-installer.readthedocs.org/en/latest/single-installer.guide.html

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Nate Finch <nate.finch at canonical.com> wrote:
> It seems like a lot of people get confused by Juju, because it is different
> than the tools they know. They want to deploy stuff with Juju, and so they
> get a machine from AWS/Digital Ocean/whatever, ssh into the machine, install
> juju, and run the local provider.... and then wonder why they can't access
> their services from outside the machine.
>
> I think this stems from two things - one is the people are used to
> chef/puppet/etc where you ssh into the machine and then run the install
> there (note: I know nothing about these tools, so may be mis-characterizing
> them).  Whereas with Juju, you are perfectly able to orchestrate an install
> on a remote machine in the cloud from your laptop.
>
> The other is the local provider.  The intent of the local provider is to
> give users a way to easily try out Juju without needing to spin up real
> machines in the cloud. It's also very useful for testing out charms during
> charm development and/or testing service deployments.  It's not very useful
> for real production environments... but yet some people still try to
> shoehorn it into that job.
>
> I think one easy thing we could do to better indicate the purpose of the
> local provider is to simply rename it.  If we named it the "demo" provider,
> it would be much more clear to users that it is not expected to be used for
> deploying a production environment. This could be as easy as aliasing
> "local" to "demo" and making the default environments.yaml print out with
> the local provider renamed to "demo".  (feel free to s/demo/testing/ or any
> other "not ready for production" word)
>
> What do you think?
>
> -Nate
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