[Bug 1260972] Re: Montreal not available in Ubiquity time zome selector
Adrien L.
1260972 at bugs.launchpad.net
Fri Jul 10 04:29:43 UTC 2020
Upping this again.
There is a Mont-real entry, which is not an official name for the city.
This should be corrected to either Montréal or Montreal (preferably the
first).
> However, this turned out to not be true and Montreal timezone was removed from tzdata database.
This is not quite correct, Montreal is still aliased in the /usr/share/zoneinfo. It may make sense to alias them, but politically Quebec and Ontario have autonomy in the matters of time zone selection (each province passes their own laws), and as someone mentioned previously, there is no reason for the residents of Quebec to believe that they should be subordinate to the timezone of another province of Canada, simply because of that autonomy. If any kind of unification needs to be made, then the Toronto / Quebec zone should be specified under the more common "Eastern Daylight Time" denomination.
I have also noticed, in very little time playing around with the time
zone selector, that the quality of the database is fairly poor, and
contains many misspellings. For example, when just typing "Mont", I
noticed two separate entries for the city of Mont-de-Marsan (in France).
There is the correct spelling "Mont-de-Marsan", but there is also a
*wrong* alternate spelling "Lo Mont-de-Marsan", which I think was
supposed to be the Gascon spelling ("Lo Mont de Marçan"). There is also
a third entry "Lo Mont", supposedly to a city in Aquitaine, and I
suspect this is another incorrect entry in this database referring to
the same city. This is just the first thing I found, but I have no doubt
that I would find many more misspellings and poor quality entries if I
digged more.
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Title:
Montreal not available in Ubiquity time zome selector
Status in One Hundred Papercuts:
Invalid
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
Won't Fix
Bug description:
In Trusty, but this is also true for 13.10, Montreal has disappeared
from Ubiquity time zone selector.
===
When offline, without internet connectivity provided, we only ship
zone.tab file to access unique set of timezones which are not per
city/country/region, but rather per unique timezone (that is offsets &
summer/winter time shifts).
In 2013h release, tzdata upstream consolidated "America/Montreal" &
"America/Toronto" into a single entry to cover both Ontario & Quebec.
Thus all systems that ship up to date zone.tab file only, from tzdata
package, no longer have a distinct entry for Montreal, instead it's
this new Easter Time joined entry.
Or alternatively establish internet connectivity and then one can
select any city/town/location because an extensive remote database of
geolocations is used to define where you are.
Upstream tzdata change diff can be seen here:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/tzdata/vivid/revision/103
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04
Package: ubiquity 2.17.1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.12.0-7.15-generic 3.12.4
Uname: Linux 3.12.0-7-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.12.7-0ubuntu2
Architecture: amd64
CasperVersion: 1.336ubuntu1
CurrentDesktop: Unity
Date: Sat Dec 14 07:55:22 2013
InstallCmdLine: noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz quiet splash -- debian-installer/language=fr keyboard-configuration/layoutcode=ca
LiveMediaBuild: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" - Alpha amd64 (20131214)
ProcEnviron:
LANGUAGE=en
PATH=(custom, no user)
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=<set>
LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: ubiquity
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
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