[Bug 1835030] Re: Default formats should not be based on timezones

Pierre Equoy pierre.equoy at canonical.com
Tue Jul 2 09:22:22 UTC 2019


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Title:
  Default formats should not be based on timezones

Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Image: Disco Dingo (19.04)

  Steps to reproduce
  ------------------

  1. Boot live USB
  2. Install the image
  3. Select "English" as language
  4. Select "English (US)" as keyboard layout
  5. Select "Taipei" in the "Where are you?" screen
  6. Complete installation and check the time and date format used in the notification area, as well as in Settings > Region & Language

  Expected result
  ---------------

  The date and time format (as well as numbers etc.) is based on my
  language and/or keyboard layout

  Actual result
  -------------

  The date and time format (as well as numbers etc.) is set to "Taiwan
  (Chinese, Literary)".

  Rationale
  ---------

  I'm a French national living in Taiwan and using Ubuntu in English.
  When installing Ubuntu, I always assume the "Where are you?" step is
  to set your timezone and nothing else. However, it seems to be used to
  also set the date, time and number formats, which for me don't make
  that much sense.

  Moreover, it affects a lot of things (terminal outputs, etc.) and it's
  not that trivial to find the right menu to change this setting (I
  always have to go in the Settings panel and spend a good amount of
  time figuring out it's actually in the "Region & Language" panel)

  Suggestions
  -----------

  1. Add a step in Ubiquity to select the formats to use. It could be pre-filled with guessed information (for instance from the timezone, as it's done today, or from the keyboard layout), but at least it would give an option for the user prior to installing.
  2. Use the keyboard layout to determine what formats to use. This could work but could be tricky for some layouts like Dvorak... 


  Additional information
  ----------------------

  This is my locale information right after installing.

  $ locale
  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
  LANGUAGE=
  LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
  LC_NUMERIC=lzh_TW
  LC_TIME=lzh_TW
  LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
  LC_MONETARY=lzh_TW
  LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
  LC_PAPER=lzh_TW
  LC_NAME=lzh_TW
  LC_ADDRESS=lzh_TW
  LC_TELEPHONE=lzh_TW
  LC_MEASUREMENT=lzh_TW
  LC_IDENTIFICATION=lzh_TW
  LC_ALL=

  Also, please see attached screenshots for the different installation
  steps and results.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.04
  Package: ubiquity (not installed)
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.0.0-20.21-generic 5.0.8
  Uname: Linux 5.0.0-20-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.20.10-0ubuntu27
  Architecture: amd64
  CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME
  Date: Tue Jul  2 17:04:11 2019
  InstallCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash ---
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2019-07-02 (0 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 19.04 "Disco Dingo" - Release amd64 (20190416)
  SourcePackage: ubiquity
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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