[Bug 1585589] Re: drop upstart-sysv

Adam Conrad adconrad at 0c3.net
Wed May 25 16:20:34 UTC 2016


It's not so much about maintaining upstart as it is about maintaining
upstart support in every daemon, and making sure the boot sequence
continues to function well, etc.  That's completely wasted effort, and
the only reason we made sure it continued functioning up until Xenial
was to make sure that upgrades could run smoothly.

Putting alternate init systems in universe without also committing to
support them would be naive at best, actively harmful to users, at
worst.

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Title:
  drop upstart-sysv

Status in upstart package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  I'm using Ubuntu 16.10 dev with init 1.33ubuntu2 and I'm noticing that
  it does now pre-depend on "systemd-sysv" instead of "systemd-sysv |
  upstart-sysv". Since init is essential and upstart-sysv conflicts with
  systemd-sysv this means it is not possible to install Upstart in a
  sane way anymore.

  In case Upstart is not supported anymore maybe all related packages
  should be removed from the yakkety repository then (since Upstart
  can't be installed anymore with apt for the reasons above) to avoid
  confusion.

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