[Bug 1577847] Re: Demote Bazaar to universe?

[Vincent Ladeuil]

> Well, the way it works is we need to demote everything that depends
/build-depends on python2 first. But yes, the goal is for it to be
demoted for 18.04 but that is a stretch goal - so waiting is certainly
an option.

Pfew, what a relief ;-D

> Moving from Main to Universe does not (at least in my understanding)
mean that we cannot use bzr as part of ubuntu infrastructure. It can
still get security updates, but we would not guarantee them from the
security team.

Thanks, I was unclear about the demoting fallouts, yeah, I understand
security updates comes into play (the bazaar project faces this same
issue with users still on python2.6... would be nice if they go to 2.7.
>From that, I perfectly understand the desire to go to python3 for Ubuntu
;)

My /personal/ motivation here is to find an escape path for people still
having bzr repositories when an hypothetical python3 bzr drop some
compatibility with old formats.

A different scale of backwards compatibility :-/

> Just to be clear: absolutely nothing is cast in stone, I'm not a
decision maker on this, and it's not urgent at this time. I just wanted
to get a headstart on 18.04 so we have a better chance to have python2
out of main.

Full ack ! 18.04 is different from 16.10 ;-)

My last efforts have been to release bzr-2.7 into the xenial LTS to buy
time.

Who knows, in the 18.04 timeframe a bzr snap may address the issue (for
Ubuntu, security updates are a different story still).

Thanks for the clarifications and apologies for the knee jerk initial
reaction ;)

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Title:
  Demote Bazaar to universe?

Status in bzr package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Release to act on:  Dev (currently 16.10)
  Src: bzr
  Bin: bzr bzr-doc python-bzrlib python-bzrlib-dbg python-bzrlib.tests

  Bazaar development is in maintenance mode and there are not resources to port it to python 3.
  reverse-recommends sorted:
  all in universe - bugs-everywhere bikeshed bzr-dbus bzr-email bzr-loom bzr-pipeline gedit-developer-plugins ikiwiki jhbuild open-font-design-toolkit python-vcstools ubuntu-dev-tools

  From this point on, I ignore any I've already covered that are in
  universe.

  reverse-depends sorted:
   * universe: bzr-builddeb bzr-builder  bzr-explorer bzr-fastimport bzr-git bzr-loom bzr-search bzr-stats bzr-tweet bzr-upload bzr-webdav bzr-xmloutput charm-tools config-manager juju-deployer loggerhead lptools phablet-tools qbzr qct
   * main:
    ** bzrtools
    ** etckeeper (depends on git or mercurual or bzr or darcs)
    ** git-remote-bzr

  reverse-depends -b src:bzr
  Reverse-Build-Depends-Indep:
   * main: bzrtools git-remote-bzr (see above)
   * universe: python-gasp

  Reverse-Build-Depends:
   * universe: mysql-utilities ocamlbricks
   * main?: webapps-applications

  This is not reach for archive action yet, I just wanted to start the
  discussion here.

  Out of the discussion from UOS May 2016 there was talk about demoting
  Bazaar from Main to Universe as part of us moving Python 2 eventually
  to universe.  http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22675/finish-
  move-to-py3/

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