[Bug 1046563] Re: update-manager never appears on lubuntu precise > trusty

Mélodie meets at gmx.fr
Mon Jul 7 11:10:02 UTC 2014


Hi,

I have several installs of Ubuntu Openbox Remix (Bento, a custom version
which works very well besides that).

I would guess that this issue does not affect only Lubuntu or Bento, but
also other versions. I had a talk with a guy on IRC a few days ago, he
is running Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 and he had not been warned since some
time, and had 130 packages available for update.

One of the installs I have, (a x86_64 version, on a netbook Samsung
N210, which is not often used) has not been yet updated since 12.04.1,
so I thought I would test how it goes with update-notifier and update-
manager.

I just started the distribution, and **a while after**, update-notifier
**appeared**. It's not instant, it does take some time!

So I looked at the packages which will be updated, and update-notifier,
update-manager, and update-manager-common do appear in the list of
packages to be updated.

The versions before updating are as follow:
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[root at bento64:/etc/apt]# apt-cache policy update-notifier
update-notifier:
  Installé : 0.119ubuntu8.6
  Candidat : 0.119ubuntu8.6
 Table de version :
 *** 0.119ubuntu8.6 0
        500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     0.119ubuntu8.1 0
        500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages


[root at bento64:/etc/apt]# apt-cache policy update-manager
update-manager:
  Installé : 1:0.156.14.12
  Candidat : 1:0.156.14.13
 Table de version :
     1:0.156.14.13 0
        500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages
 *** 1:0.156.14.12 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1:0.156.14.5 0
        500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main amd64 Packages
     1:0.156.14 0
        500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages


[root at bento64:/etc/apt]# apt-cache policy update-manager-core
update-manager-core:
  Installé : 1:0.156.14.12
  Candidat : 1:0.156.14.13
 Table de version :
     1:0.156.14.13 0
        500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages
 *** 1:0.156.14.12 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1:0.156.14.5 0
        500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main amd64 Packages
     1:0.156.14 0
        500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[root at bento64:/etc/apt]# 


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Here is the sources.list used: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7759622/

and here is what will be updated in a moment:
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[root at bento64:/etc/apt]# LANG=C apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  apt apt-transport-https apt-utils bsdutils ca-certificates dpkg file firefox firefox-locale-en firefox-locale-fr gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 gir1.2-gtk-2.0 gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gnupg
  gnupg-agent gnupg2 gpgv grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common gtk2-engines-pixbuf icedtea-6-jre-cacao icedtea-6-jre-jamvm ifupdown initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-bin
  iproute libapt-inst1.4 libapt-pkg4.12 libavcodec53 libavformat53 libavutil51 libblkid1 libbluetooth3 libcups2 libcupsimage2 libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau1a
  libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2 libgail-3-0 libgail18 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common libgnutls26 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin libgtk-3-common libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin
  libgtk2.0-common libgudev-1.0-0 libjson0 libmagic1 libmount1 libnm-glib-vpn1 libnm-glib4 libnm-util2 libnspr4 libnspr4-0d libnss3 libnss3-1d libpostproc52 libsmbclient libssl1.0.0
  libswscale2 libtiff4 libudev0 libuuid1 libwbclient0 libxfont1 libxml2 linux-firmware linux-libc-dev mount network-manager openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib
  openssh-client openssh-server openssl python-libxml2 ssh synaptic tzdata tzdata-java udev update-manager update-manager-core util-linux uuid-runtime
95 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 142 MB of archives.
After this operation, 20.8 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? 

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I must confess that I personally don't mind much that update-notifier
works like a "flying shoe" theses days but I care about end users who
don't like learning about system administration and want to use their
computer as they start an oven or a phone call, so for their use and for
the sake of their favorite Ubuntu box, update-notifier is a very
important part of their system. I can tell you, because I have installed
Ubuntu to several people's machines and I have asked them each time if
they wanted the update-notifier warn them when an update is available,
and they have all sayd YES! This is good for me!

I will not perform the update in the Samsung N210, and will be back here
in the coming days with news about how update-notifier behaves (I'll be
adding some sources to the list of repos, to get opportunities of
updates faster).

In the meanwhile, it would be very nice if the devs would have a look at
the changes which were done between the 12.04.1 version where it works,
and the actual version.

I can provide more files from the logs or else later, if I am told what
to provide.

Regards,
Mélodie

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Title:
  update-manager never appears on lubuntu precise > trusty

Status in “update-manager” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  i have upgraded to 12.04.1 and I've recently noticed that update-
  manager no longer prompts to install updates.  Previous to 12.04.1, it
  was mostly popping up every day.

  To reproduce, run the cron script and see if update-manager comes up,
  which it won't.

  to fix the bug, update-manager should show updates when they are
  available.

  I believe that update-manager works properly on a default install of
  lubuntu 12.04.  however, once it runs and updates to the new update
  manager, update manager turns itself off.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: update-manager 1:0.156.14.9
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-29.46-generic 3.2.24
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-29-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: fglrx
  ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu12
  Aptdaemon:

  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Wed Sep  5 17:28:06 2012
  DpkgHistoryLog.txt:

  DpkgTerminalLog.txt:

  GsettingsChanges:
   com.ubuntu.update-manager first-run false
   com.ubuntu.update-manager launch-time 1343476329
   com.ubuntu.update-manager show-details true
   com.ubuntu.update-manager window-height 692
   com.ubuntu.update-manager window-width 600
  InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" - Alpha amd64 (20120205)
  PackageArchitecture: all
  SourcePackage: update-manager
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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