[Bug 1127540] Re: improve installer to get newer releases from the internet

[Thibaut Brandscheid]

> # Allways bootable -> makes the default image twice the size, when everyone will ever only
> use one half of it. (wont fix)
I have the impression you did not understand what I tried to suggest. I didn't suggest to put the whole image for 32 and 64 bit on the installer, but rather to copy the part that is able to load and execute a newer installer/OS version from the internet for 32 and 64 bit on every installer.

> # Propose to install newer Ubuntu versions -> there is no future compat guarantee that
> this installer can install future releases, this is dangerous on reliability side of things (wont fix)
I don't see why this could not be done. Canonical is a big company, why could they not have several ip addresses that are always reachable for this kind of service as long as they exist? And if an installer doesn't work after 10 years because there is no longer a server answering -> its not the end of the world. Average RAM size surpassed the current installer size some years ago...

> # net-install-only ISO -> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD (fix released)
Nope, there is a separate minimal CD for every version, so it doesn't do what I suggested -> one "net-installer" for all versions (at last for x86, amd64 and x86_64)

> # miscellaneous -> cdimages.ubuntu.com publishes torrent files with a few supernodes seeding
> together with a large pool of people seeding the images (fix released)
Nope. I get the feeling you're kidding. The reference to use torrents is not a suggestion that Ubuntu should be downloadable through torrents - I know it is - rather a possible way how the "net-installer" could download a newer image.

> Please use ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing
Maybe next time, if there is a next time.

@xnox: I spend my free time and try to help by suggesting some ideas to
improve Ubuntu, that kind of answer is not what keeps me going.

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Title:
  improve installer to get newer releases from the internet

Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid

Bug description:
  Idea – Big Picture
  =============================================
  The main idea is to allays have an installation medium that is capable to install the latest Ubuntu and LTS version as long as there is an internet connection.

  # Allays bootable
  ---------------------------------------------
  Add two bootable mini installers to the installation medium, one for 32-bit the other for 64-bit.
  If the user inserts a 64-bit CD into an 32-bit-only-PC, instead of an error, he should see a dialog – if an internet connection is available – saying: “This Ubuntu installation medium is for 64-bit PC only. By clicking 'Next' the installer will download an appropriate installation medium for you that fits your processor architecture”.

  # One installation CD for all Ubuntu versions
  ---------------------------------------------
  I don't know how many CDs if burned over the years with all kind of Ubuntu flavors on it. If the installer would have the possibility to load a newer Ubuntu version you would never have to burn an installer CD again → reduces garbage.

  # Propose to install newer Ubuntu versions
  ---------------------------------------------
  * If the users uses an none LTS installer that is not equals the newest Ubuntu version.
  * If the users uses a LTS installer but there is a newer LTS available.

  # net-install-only ISO
  ---------------------------------------------
  Beside expanding the “normal” installer there could be a super small net-install-only ISO.

  # miscellaneous
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  Instead of using the official servers to download the ISO maybe torrents could be used - everyone uploads and downloads...

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