[Bug 926207] Re: Set formats related LC_* variables when applicable instead of LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE
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Fri Mar 23 17:08:23 UTC 2012
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Title:
Set formats related LC_* variables when applicable instead of
LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE
Status in Ubuntu Translations:
New
Status in “accountsservice” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu:
New
Status in “localechooser” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Bug description:
Up to Oneiric the LANG environment variable has in Ubuntu been
considered to represent the regional formats. Hence, in cases where a
user wants to use different locales for language respective formats,
LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE has been set explicitly.
Consequently the installer has set those three variables in
/etc/default/locale when applicable.
In Precise we are making a conceptual change, meaning that LANG now is
considered to represent the display language, and the formats related
LC_* variables are set explicitly when needed to distinguish between
language and formats. As mentioned at bug #590108, this is the
rationale for the switch:
* It's how GNOME does it in g-c-c, and considering that we are moving
towards replacing the language-selector UI with "Region and Language"
in g-c-c, it would eliminate one of the current differences in
approach between Ubuntu and GNOME.
* There seems to be quite a few desktop apps/tools, or parts of apps,
that ignore both LANGUAGE and LC_MESSAGES for the display language,
and let LANG solely determine the display language. (My LANG usually
contains a Swedish locale, while my display language is English, and
I often see Swedish translations in dialogs and menus.)
* Some distributions may prefer the simplistic approach to equal l10n
with simply picking a locale name and assigning it to LANG. If we
would switch to let LANG represent the language, the LANG variable
would be used for language all over, which would reduce the risk for
confusion with respect to locale/language settings.
Changes reflecting this switch have recently been uploaded to accountsservice and language-selector. Previous settings in /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment of LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE are deleted via accountsservice.postinst.
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/accountsservice/precise/view/head:/debian/accountsservice.postinst
For fresh installs that code is skipped, so it's important that the
corresponding changes are made to the installer:
In cases when the user makes choices at installation meaning that the
locale for display language differs from the locale for regional
formats, the installer should set LC_NUMERIC, LC_TIME, LC_MONETARY,
LC_PAPER, LC_NAME, LC_ADDRESS, LC_TELEPHONE, LC_MEASUREMENT and
refrain from setting LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE.
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