[Bug 886414] Re: No 2 Minute pause at login for Server Boot in Ubuntu Desktop

[Steve Langasek]

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 09:20:47PM -0000, goto wrote:
> This bug is ridiculous. Won't Fix? And no kidding?!?

Yes, we are not going to "fix" the system in a way that causes the user's
configured and installed services to arbitrarily fail to start correctly on
boot because of a network startup delay.

> "I don't care if it is related to retries or a timeout. But if it's
> - decided that in some environment it would be useful for reliability sake
> - to have such timeout, it would be great to improve this feature with
> - some option, like: a place where to configure it, enabling the feature
> - be useful in other scenarios, or allow the user to skip the timeout,
> - like when fsck fails for some drive."

> 100% agree.

If someone were to submit a patch that implemented this, I would be amenable
to applying it.  I will not, however, be working on this patch myself,
because seeing this message is a *symptom* of a system misconfiguration.

> At least allow to skip the waiting using STRG + C !!!

> Keep on posting and commenting this bug. The current behavior is
> intolerable.

Making a nuisance of yourself to the developers is not going to get you
anywhere.  I suggest you instead try reading the bug log, *understanding*
why this is a configuration error on your system rather than a bug in
Ubuntu and how you can fix it, and letting us know afterwards if you still
think there's something here that Ubuntu should be fixing (and can
reasonably fix).

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek at ubuntu.com                                     vorlon at debian.org

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Title:
  No 2 Minute pause at login for Server Boot in Ubuntu Desktop

Status in Upstart:
  Invalid
Status in “upstart” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  SpamapS and Scott Moser made the system to wait a few minutes at the
  login at the expense of Desktop users, for the benefit of Server
  users. I propose that we separate Ubuntu Server from Ubuntu Desktop
  completely. I have received a lot negative feedback about the change
  in 11.10. A related discussion about the problem here
  http://askubuntu.com/questions/63456/waiting-for-network-
  configuration-adding-3-to-5-minutes-to-boot-time

  /etc/networks/interface

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10
  Package: xorg 1:7.6+7ubuntu7
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-12.20-generic 3.0.4
  Uname: Linux 3.0.0-12-generic i686
  ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu3
  Architecture: i386
  Date: Sat Nov  5 02:54:23 2011
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release i386 (20100816.1)
  ProcEnviron:
   LANGUAGE=en
   PATH=(custom, User Name)
   LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
   LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: xorg
  Symptom: display
  Title: Xorg freeze
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to oneiric on 2011-10-18 (17 days ago)

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