<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Jim,<div><br></div><div>Try LibreOffice instead. I find that it starts up a lot quicker than Open Office.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Willem</div><div><br><div><div>Op 7 sep 2011, om 20:21 heeft Jim Christiansen het volgende geschreven:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hi David,<div><br></div><div>OK then. I spent $300 of our non-existent budget money and just bought 4 1 gig switches and borrowed 2 others. I started off with the 2 borrowed switches and things were so dramatically better I bought the other 4. The computers all boot quickly and maybe our troubles have been resolved by just upgrading the switches. It seemed a few people felt that gig lans were necessary and this I could check out quickly.<div>
<br></div><div>I may still have some wierd issues with the iptables commands so I'll need to sort out what is going on there.</div><div><br></div><div>Logons work quickly but Openoffice takes an uncomfortable length of time to start. Is this lag- starting programs- typical with fat clients?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks everyone for the help.<br><br></div><div>Soooo... onto my last hurlde. Does anyone know how to publish a bottle using Crossover, inside a fat client image??? I have one splendid old CAD package I use that I've always run using Crossover and I still need to get it up and running.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks again</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:33 AM, David Groos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:djgroos@gmail.com">djgroos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><div class="im"><div>On Sep 7, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Jim Christiansen wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite">Good morning, David. Thank you for the help and any ideas. My clients are (year 2006) Dell GX620s with 3.6 ghz p4s and all with 1 gig ram.</blockquote></div>Better than anything I've got!<div class="im">
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br></div><div>I've never used two nics in any of my other LTSP setups as I had always kept them behind IPCOP firewalls. I haven't had to apply iptable rules for years and really don't understand what the 1st history command, #49, is doing. There is no mention of eth0 or what ever.</div>
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<div><br></div><div>I don't know who Alkis is, but is he running his setup on a 100 megabit lan? Could the fat image be slimmed down I wonder?</div></blockquote></div>If you ever visit either irc: #edubuntu or #ltsp during the hours of 6 AM and Midnight or beyond, Greek time, you probably have seen 'alkisg' there, and if you have asked for help either place, chances are good that he spent a good bit of time helping you. He's both a dev and a teacher.</div>
<div><br></div><div>About the fat image being slimmed, he runs regular Ubuntu (I just asked him on the #edubuntu irc). About the server he says:</div><div style="padding-top:1px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:1px;padding-left:5px;margin-bottom:3px;font-family:'Lucida Grande'">
<a title="~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg" style="font-weight:bold;color:rgb(255, 153, 0);text-decoration:none !important;margin-right:0.5ex;white-space:nowrap">alkisg</a><span>:</span><span style="word-wrap:break-word">For fat clients, any 5 year old pc with a bit of ram + disk will do</span></div>
<div style="padding-top:1px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:1px;padding-left:5px;margin-bottom:3px;font-family:'Lucida Grande'"><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">[</span><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">5:17pm</span><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">]</span><a title="~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg" style="font-weight:bold;color:rgb(255, 153, 0);text-decoration:none !important;margin-right:0.5ex;white-space:nowrap">alkisg</a><span>:</span><span style="word-wrap:break-word">The network speed is the greatest asset there</span></div>
<div style="padding-top:1px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:1px;padding-left:5px;margin-bottom:3px;font-family:'Lucida Grande'"><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">[</span><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">5:17pm</span><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">]</span><a title="~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg" style="font-weight:bold;color:rgb(255, 153, 0);text-decoration:none !important;margin-right:0.5ex;white-space:nowrap">alkisg</a><span>:</span><span style="word-wrap:break-word">For thin clients, you need cpu, ram, network, etc etc</span></div>
<div style="padding-top:1px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:1px;padding-left:5px;margin-bottom:3px;font-family:'Lucida Grande'"><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">[</span><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">5:18pm</span><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">]</span></div>
<div style="padding-top:1px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:1px;padding-left:5px;margin-bottom:3px;font-family:'Lucida Grande'"><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">[</span><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">5:20pm</span><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">]</span><a title="~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg" style="font-weight:bold;color:rgb(255, 153, 0);text-decoration:none !important;margin-right:0.5ex;white-space:nowrap">alkisg</a><span>:</span><span style="word-wrap:break-word">So, if he has some money to spare, tell him to go for 3 gb ram + 2 pci-e gigabit nics for the fat server.</span></div>
<div style="padding-top:1px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:1px;padding-left:5px;margin-bottom:3px;font-family:'Lucida Grande'"><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">[</span><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">5:21pm</span><span style="display:block;margin-top:0px;margin-left:5px;float:right;font-size:9px;color:rgb(136, 136, 136);word-wrap:normal">]</span><span><br>
:(for fat server)<br> </span></div><div><div class="im"><blockquote type="cite"><div><br></div><div>I've just talked to the VP and he says that money is tight to purchase gig switches. I had been thinking of yanking the 20 100 mbit switches and swapping in new gig switches.</div>
</blockquote></div><div>There really needs to be at least 1, gig port, to connect the switch to the server. alkis says of their setup:</div><div><span style="font-family:'Lucida Grande'"><a title="~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg" style="font-weight:bold;color:rgb(255, 153, 0);text-decoration:none !important;margin-right:0.5ex;white-space:nowrap">alkisg</a></span><span style="font-family:'Lucida Grande'">:</span><span style="font-family:'Lucida Grande'"><span style="word-wrap:break-word">We use switches either with 1 or 2 gigabit ports, or full gigabit switches</span></span></div>
<div class="im"><div><span style="font-family:'Lucida Grande'"><span style="word-wrap:break-word"><br></span></span></div><blockquote type="cite">
<div><br></div><div>I'll be in a pickle here pretty soon. Thanks again, Jim<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>Good luck!</div><div>David<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote>
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