<div dir="ltr">Because when students log back in after a freeze, their desktop appears without the top and bottom panels and they can't do anything until I slay them.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:03 AM, David Van Assche <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dvanassche@gmail.com">dvanassche@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">How do u know it is not working? can u paste some data?<br>
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On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Todd O'Bryan <<a href="mailto:toddobryan@gmail.com">toddobryan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:05 AM, David Van Assche <<a href="mailto:dvanassche@gmail.com">dvanassche@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> I've taken a look into the email in question, and can answer some<br>
>> questions. I in no way am affiliated with canonical, though I do work<br>
>> within the ed/ubuntu community. Firstly, Scott mentions not using<br>
>> 8.04, clearly you should upgrade as that will solve 50% of your<br>
>> issues... the other issues are all valid, and I guess the problem is<br>
>> one of communication between developers and end users. Lets address<br>
>> the issues seperately:<br>
>><br>
>> - The gnome lingering process problem<br>
>><br>
>> Agreed.. this is a heavy issue that is a pain in the behind, but it is<br>
>> not LTSP centric... the fault lies with gnome. Right now the<br>
>> workaround is a watchdog script, which seems to work ok, but is by no<br>
>> means a fix... This needs to be tackled from the gnome side... Right<br>
>> now the solution is in monitoring and ending misbehaving processes<br>
>> through the script or by hand via pkill -u or killall. It makes sense<br>
>> to clean all processes at least 1 time per day... consider it<br>
>> maintenance.<br>
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> I'm actually running the gnome-watchdog package that Philipp Hanselmann<br>
> wrote. It's not working, he's never tested it on 8.04, so it's hardly his<br>
> fault. I sent an email asking if I had to do something extra to make it<br>
> start working and got no answer.<br>
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> Also, note that, useful as gnome-watchdog is, it's not in any of the<br>
> official repos. Given that it's essential, someone official should have<br>
> adopted it and pulled it into the repos.<br>
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> Todd<br>
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