<html><head><style type="text/css"></style></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Hi All, I'm glad this type of effort is coming to the fore, and i'm willing to participate in the gathering of all these bits and pieces into a single place for reference purposes. I can participate in this effort as assigned by more knowledgeable members of the list, so i await any assignment. Regards! David </div><div style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">----- Original Message ---- From: "edubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com" <edubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com> To: edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 12:00:02 PM Subject: edubuntu-users Digest, Vol 27, Issue 22 Send edubuntu-users mailing list submissions to     <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit     <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at     <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of edubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics:   1. how do you get something to run when a user logs on? (john)   2. Re: how do you get something to run when a user logs on?       (Oliver Grawert)   3. how do you kill a user's old processes when they try to log       back on (Todd O'Bryan)   4. Re: how do you get something to run when a user logs on?       (francois)   5. Re: how do you get something to run when a user logs on? (john)   6. Re: how do you get something to run when a user logs on?       (David Van Assche)   7. Re: how do you get something to run when a user logs on?       (Uwe Geercken) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:03:19 -0700 From: john <<a ymailto="mailto:lists.john@gmail.com" href="mailto:lists.john@gmail.com">lists.john@gmail.com</a>> Subject: how do you get something to run when a user logs on? To: "Edubuntu Users Group" <<a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID:     <<a ymailto="mailto:2be970b50808280803i5e08a962s212a958aa289d454@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:2be970b50808280803i5e08a962s212a958aa289d454@mail.gmail.com">2be970b50808280803i5e08a962s212a958aa289d454@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, I was wondering where I can put scripts that I want to run when a user logs on to a thin client. I used to put them in /etc/profile but that doesn't seem to work under Hardy. It seems like LDM is somehow by-passing the stuff I put there. Can someone help me out? Thanks! John ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:27:13 +0200 From: Oliver Grawert <<a ymailto="mailto:ogra@ubuntu.com" href="mailto:ogra@ubuntu.com">ogra@ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: how do you get something to run when a user logs on? To: <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Message-ID: <1219937233.7362.14.camel@osiris> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hi, On Do, 2008-08-28 at 08:03 -0700, john wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering where I can put scripts that I want to run when a user > logs on to a thin client. I used to put them in /etc/profile but that > doesn't seem to work under Hardy. It seems like LDM is somehow > by-passing the stuff I put there. Can someone help me out? ldm is executing /etc/X11/Xsession by default ... (like gdm or kdm do) one option would be to put stuff into /etc/X11/Xsession.d, another is to use the xdg autostart mechanism in /etc/xdg/autostart ciao     oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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When that happens, they have to power down and restart the client. But when they try to log back in, their login stalls, because their old processes are hanging around. Last year I stuck some command somewhere to automatically kill all running processes when a user logs on, but I can't remember what it was, where I put it, and I stupidly reinstalled over the old system without making a backup. Can anyone enlighten me? Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It seems like LDM is somehow > by-passing the stuff I put there. Can someone help me out? I think that the profile read by ltsp client comes from : /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/profile but as ltsp 5 uses a squashfs image, you have to run : sudo ltsp-update-image if any /opt/ltsp/ file is modified. (I used this to change the UMASK to 022 to give read/write abilities to users in the same group). Hope this will help... Fran?ois ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:33:06 -0700 From: john <<a ymailto="mailto:lists.john@gmail.com" href="mailto:lists.john@gmail.com">lists.john@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: how do you get something to run when a user logs on? To: "Oliver Grawert" <<a ymailto="mailto:ogra@ubuntu.com" href="mailto:ogra@ubuntu.com">ogra@ubuntu.com</a>> Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Message-ID:     <<a ymailto="mailto:2be970b50808281533r6ab0705g785cd0b765f24d9c@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:2be970b50808281533r6ab0705g785cd0b765f24d9c@mail.gmail.com">2be970b50808281533r6ab0705g785cd0b765f24d9c@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi oli, Thanks again for this approach. Is there a story behind the move away from using /etc/profile and /etc/gdm/PostLogin? I'd be interested in hearing it. Thanks! John On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Oliver Grawert <<a ymailto="mailto:ogra@ubuntu.com" href="mailto:ogra@ubuntu.com">ogra@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: > hi, > On Do, 2008-08-28 at 08:03 -0700, john wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I was wondering where I can put scripts that I want to run when a user >> logs on to a thin client. I used to put them in /etc/profile but that >> doesn't seem to work under Hardy. It seems like LDM is somehow >> by-passing the stuff I put there. Can someone help me out? > ldm is executing /etc/X11/Xsession by default ... (like gdm or kdm do) > one option would be to put stuff into /etc/X11/Xsession.d, another is to > use the xdg autostart mechanism in /etc/xdg/autostart > > ciao >        oli > > -- > edubuntu-users mailing list > <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users</a> > > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:24:44 +0200 From: "David Van Assche" <<a ymailto="mailto:dvanassche@gmail.com" href="mailto:dvanassche@gmail.com">dvanassche@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: how do you get something to run when a user logs on? To: john <<a ymailto="mailto:lists.john@gmail.com" href="mailto:lists.john@gmail.com">lists.john@gmail.com</a>>,     "Edubuntu Users Group"     <<a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID:     <<a ymailto="mailto:8cc423ef0808282224q6eeeb227q4740c857d1bb6c9f@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:8cc423ef0808282224q6eeeb227q4740c857d1bb6c9f@mail.gmail.com">8cc423ef0808282224q6eeeb227q4740c857d1bb6c9f@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In reality, there has been no move away from the  standard practices you describe below. The difference is that we often forget that the /etc/profile and .../PostLogin are really being read from the user's chroot (/opt/ltsp/<name-of-chroot>/etc/profile) and that these then need to be rebuilt using the ltsp-update-image command.... It would be wonderful for more documentation on all this stuff, there is much that gets taken for granted by ltsp experts but just leaves most newbies clueless... LTSP is not so logical in what it does until you understand the entire framework, and I don't believe that even THAT isn't documented anywhere... I've volunteered to re/write some of edubuntu classroom handbook by writing this email of course... if anyone wants to join in, we should coordinate.... I've started by ripping restructuring so that it becomes an LTSP handbook and not a edubuntu handbook since most LTSP is the same, and only certain elements are ubuntu specific (btw.... someone should really tell the canonical corps to get rid of the edubuntu brand name as it does nothing now but create confusion.) It doesn't exist as a distro as do xubuntu and geubuntu and kubuntu... it needs to be restructured somehow cause I bet its just confusing the hell out of people... I would love for someone that works with canonical to explain to me, what edubuntu means to them :-) and please dont say: Its the 2nd CD with all the educactional software.) David On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:33 AM, john <<a ymailto="mailto:lists.john@gmail.com" href="mailto:lists.john@gmail.com">lists.john@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > Hi oli, > > Thanks again for this approach. Is there a story behind the move away > from using /etc/profile and /etc/gdm/PostLogin? I'd be interested in > hearing it. > > Thanks! > > John > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Oliver Grawert <<a ymailto="mailto:ogra@ubuntu.com" href="mailto:ogra@ubuntu.com">ogra@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: >> hi, >> On Do, 2008-08-28 at 08:03 -0700, john wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was wondering where I can put scripts that I want to run when a user >>> logs on to a thin client. I used to put them in /etc/profile but that >>> doesn't seem to work under Hardy. It seems like LDM is somehow >>> by-passing the stuff I put there. Can someone help me out? >> ldm is executing /etc/X11/Xsession by default ... (like gdm or kdm do) >> one option would be to put stuff into /etc/X11/Xsession.d, another is to >> use the xdg autostart mechanism in /etc/xdg/autostart >> >> ciao >>        oli >> >> -- >> edubuntu-users mailing list >> <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users</a> >> >> > > -- > edubuntu-users mailing list > <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users</a> > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:08:57 +0200 From: Uwe Geercken <<a ymailto="mailto:uwe.geercken@datamelt.com" href="mailto:uwe.geercken@datamelt.com">uwe.geercken@datamelt.com</a>> Subject: Re: how do you get something to run when a user logs on? To: <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:20080829080857.s4s1q13r0gsskwcw@webmail.datamelt.com" href="mailto:20080829080857.s4s1q13r0gsskwcw@webmail.datamelt.com">20080829080857.s4s1q13r0gsskwcw@webmail.datamelt.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=ISO-8859-1;    DelSp="Yes";     format="flowed" David, I agree. I am doing classroom seessions once a week in our local  school for about a year now and tend to forget things when I don't  need them regularly. my server runs well so I haven't touch him for a  while. I have surfed the net to collect little bits on how to tweak ltsp or  how to get around problems. it would be nice to have this all  documented and a real good overview of ltsp as you indicated. if you and others do that, I would volunteer to help and to translate  to german. to have things in one place would be really helpful. rgds, uwe Quoting David Van Assche <<a ymailto="mailto:dvanassche@gmail.com" href="mailto:dvanassche@gmail.com">dvanassche@gmail.com</a>>: > In reality, there has been no move away from the  standard practices > you describe below. The difference is that we often forget that the > /etc/profile and .../PostLogin are really being read from the user's > chroot (/opt/ltsp/<name-of-chroot>/etc/profile) and that these then > need to be rebuilt using the ltsp-update-image command.... > > It would be wonderful for more documentation on all this stuff, there > is much that gets taken for granted by ltsp experts but just leaves > most newbies clueless... LTSP is not so logical in what it does until > you understand the entire framework, and I don't believe that even > THAT isn't documented anywhere... I've volunteered to re/write some of > edubuntu classroom handbook by writing this email of course... if > anyone wants to join in, we should coordinate.... I've started by > ripping restructuring so that it becomes an LTSP handbook and not a > edubuntu handbook since most LTSP is the same, and only certain > elements are ubuntu specific (btw.... someone should really tell the > canonical corps to get rid of the edubuntu brand name as it does > nothing now but create confusion.) It doesn't exist as a distro as do > xubuntu and geubuntu and kubuntu... it needs to be restructured > somehow cause I bet its just confusing the hell out of people... I > would love for someone that works with canonical to explain to me, > what edubuntu means to them :-) and please dont say: Its the 2nd CD > with all the educactional software.) > > David > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:33 AM, john <<a ymailto="mailto:lists.john@gmail.com" href="mailto:lists.john@gmail.com">lists.john@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> Hi oli, >> >> Thanks again for this approach. Is there a story behind the move away >> from using /etc/profile and /etc/gdm/PostLogin? I'd be interested in >> hearing it. >> >> Thanks! >> >> John >> >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Oliver Grawert <<a ymailto="mailto:ogra@ubuntu.com" href="mailto:ogra@ubuntu.com">ogra@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: >>> hi, >>> On Do, 2008-08-28 at 08:03 -0700, john wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was wondering where I can put scripts that I want to run when a user >>>> logs on to a thin client. I used to put them in /etc/profile but that >>>> doesn't seem to work under Hardy. It seems like LDM is somehow >>>> by-passing the stuff I put there. Can someone help me out? >>> ldm is executing /etc/X11/Xsession by default ... (like gdm or kdm do) >>> one option would be to put stuff into /etc/X11/Xsession.d, another is to >>> use the xdg autostart mechanism in /etc/xdg/autostart >>> >>> ciao >>>        oli >>> >>> -- >>> edubuntu-users mailing list >>> <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:  >>> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users</a> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> edubuntu-users mailing list >> <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:  >> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users</a> >> > > -- > edubuntu-users mailing list > <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:  > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users</a> > ------------------------------ -- edubuntu-users mailing list <a ymailto="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users</a> End of edubuntu-users Digest, Vol 27, Issue 22 ********************************************** </div></div></div> </body></html>