This resurrects a post that was almost a month old, but I wanted to say that my skepticism about Network Manager was unwarranted. Between the beta versions of Ubuntu Feisty and the final release, it made amazing strides. It works reliably and makes browsing available wireless networks a breeze. A nice touch is that if you establish a temporary wired connection with a gateway, it disables the wireless connection so there is no confusion regarding the default route. Also, I re-installed the server version of Edubuntu, replacing 6.10 with 7.04 (Feisty) for my thin-client network at school. It was even easier than before. I believe the whole process took less than a couple of hours, much of that due to re-configuring Firefox, NoScript, etc. not having bothered to save user settings. Scott <div>On 4/10/07, Scott Ledyard <<a href="mailto:scott@redboot.biz">scott@redboot.biz</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> My experience was Feisty Herd 5, maybe the next step resolved bugs. At this point, I'll check out the release on the 19th. <div>On 4/10/07, Gavin McCullagh <<a href="mailto:gmccullagh@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">gmccullagh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi, On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Scott Ledyard wrote: > Yikes! I've had nothing but problems using Network Manager. (Example: Assign > a static IP to a NIC, unplug the patch cable and NW negotiates a zeroconf > <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration</a>>IP in the 169.254.x.xrange) > > Are you finding it's become more stable in the 7.04 beta? I guess I should be specific and say that I've had very positive experiences of it over the past week in Feisty (7.04 beta) but prior to that I tried to use it in edgy and it was a shambles.  It seems to have improved substantially now though.  Nice clean support for WPA, lets you pick which wifi network from those available and the wired connection (if present).  It's very laptop/desktop oriented, but that's what it's for, servers should probably be using /etc/network/interfaces. Gavin -- edubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users</a> </blockquote> </div></div> </blockquote></div>