gutsy and regular PCs on edubuntu lan

David Van Assche dvanassche at gmail.com
Tue Oct 30 19:23:51 GMT 2007


Hi,
    Apart from that, it's really not hard to install both dansguardian and
some firewall like shorewall and manage both (and other aspects of the
server) with Webmin, which for all the negative attention I've seen it get
in the ubuntu forums, is not such a bad tool for those of us wanting gui
tools as well as the command line. Anyway, the problem mentioned above
sounds like nating... I have the same setup here, some thin clients and the
rest being normal computers connecting to the lan, and they all, windows
machines too, get dhcp and internet from the server.

Kind Regards,
David

On 10/30/07, Gavin McCullagh <gmccullagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Philippe,
>
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Philippe Rousselot wrote:
>
> > It is apparently impossible (out of the box) to get regular PCs
> > connected to the edubuntu lan to access internet. it is only possible
> > for thin clients.
>
> There are (as I understand it) two possible network topologies for
> edubuntu:
>
> 1. Single network interface.  Edubuntu and all thin clients sit on the
> main
>    network like all other machines.  Edubuntu runs dhcp for all machines,
>    and thin client services for thin clients.
> 2. Two network interfaces.  Edubuntu sits on the main network, thin
> clients
>    sit behind it, connected by a separate switch to its second network
>    interface.
>
> In [1], all machines can see the internet directly.  In [2], you can put
> your desktops directly on the main network and they will get internet
> access _or_ put them behind the edubuntu server which must then have
> ip_forwarding switched on.
>
> It's possible the above situation has changed recently.  I'm open to
> corrections if it has.
>
> > remarque: as the primary vocation for edubuntu is to be used in schools,
> > it is quite domageable not to get out of the box  :
> >     1. parental control with GUI to modify white/black list
> >     2. access to internet for regular PCs connected to the server
>
> What you seem to be describing here is a firewall/content filtering
> server.
> Edubuntu (again, as I understand it) provides a desktop OS for schools,
> not
> a firewall.  You probably don't want to plug things together as though it
> were the firewall and it doesn't attempt to provide content filtering
> (which is usually best done at/near the firewall).
>
> I would suggest a firewall/filtering product is required for this need.
> Maybe edubuntu should try to provide it, I don't know, but the current
> product is really not aimed at that.
>
> ... or such is my understanding.
>
> Gavin
>
>
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