new education team - please explore

Harry Sweet hsweet at
Tue Jul 24 23:00:06 BST 2007

2 thoughts on the subject;

1. There is an open source cell phone coming out.  Data logging is not rocket science.  A long term solution might be to build our own.

2. Many of the probes (I can't remember which one I have) connect to a TI calculator which can collect the data + communicate with a pc.  Do they work with linux?  If they did you could go probe -> TI -> PC and take it from there.

>>> "Phoenixink" <phoenixink at> 07/23/07 7:42 PM >>>
Hi John,

Unfortunately I have not been able to make any progress with this. 
The last suggestion I had from the users group was to see if the software called the USB as a com port.
If it did I may have been able to redirect the com port through WINE to make things work.

I have checked the software itself and as many of the associated files as I can but have not found any reference to com ports.
Therefore, I am assuming the software communicates with the USB port directly.

At this time I have tried all I can think of without success.

I am copying this to the users group also in case some one has any suggestions not yet thought of.



----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Ridge 
  To: Phoenixink 
  Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 5:38 PM
  Subject: Re: new education team - please explore


  I am wondering if you have made any progress with data logging (of any sort) and Ubuntu/Linux

  My reasons:
  1. I teach science (mainly biology) at Stanmore College and have recently been given responsibility for developing science courses.
  2. The Min of Ed has made money available for projects involving wireless devices
  3. as you point out, data loggers not working is a show stopper.



  On 9 Jul 2007, at 14:02, Phoenixink wrote:

    Hi Jim,

    I saw you new team message and wanted to explain a scenario and ask a question.

    I am currently working with a middle school science teacher to build a LTSP network for his class. 
    We have put together 4 clients and a server that all work very well together.
    The target is 20 clients.

    However, there is one real problem that is stopping us from using this solution over a Microsoft solution.
    The problem is the "Pasport Explorer" and the "Data Studio" software by "PASCO" ref:
    You collect temperature and other data via the USB port from the Explorer with the Data Studio software, which then plots and otherwise allows you to manipulate the data.

    I have tried to use WINE as a windows emulator for the Data Studio software and it works well except there is no way to access the Explorer probe on the USB port, so even though the software runs it cannot collect the data from the Explorer probe. This is a show stopper as far as being able to implement Linux.

    I have contacted PASCO and they have no Linux software, no intention of doing a Linux software, and will not give me the commands for the Explorer probes so I can write a software myself.

    With all this in mind, how can we expect schools to actually switch to oss such as Linux? 

    I appreciate any comments you may have and of course any ideas on a solution for our particular situation.


    Jim Cooney
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jim Hutchinson 
      To: edubuntu-users at 
      Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 2:20 PM
      Subject: new education team - please explore

      Greetings all,

      I have just set up a new education related team ( and I would like to find others interested in helping to build it. The main focus in to build a community of teachers wanting to use oss and those wanting to help teachers. If you have any thoughts, ideas or suggestions please share them with me. If you'd like to join - please do. 

      Jim Hutchinson

      Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.


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