What's the relationship of an install DVD as is being talked about and having an image of a 'golden server' and burning the image onto a machine? It would be really cool if some localapps were already set up along with iTALC and Sabayon and maybe even CmapTools, squid/squidguard and LDAP! Could there be some kind of a hybrid--having an install DVD which burns on a 'golden server' along with some install steps which allow for a certain range of customization? These are just some thoughts from a person who donated 100+ hours of his summer (with other people's help!) to create a working thin client server. David <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Alkis Georgopoulos <<a href="mailto:alkisg@gmail.com">alkisg@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Στις 23-09-2009, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 16:44 -0400, ο/η Jordan Mantha έγραψε: > <snip> I think this would be awesome for the 10.04 LTS release of <div class="im">> Edubuntu to have a GUI installer for LTSP so that we can remove that > from the text-based installer (which require a lot of DVD space) and > is more convenient for the "average user". </div>All the following thoughts are based on the idea that duplicate files do not take extra space on the DVD. If that assumption is wrong, please ignore the mail. :-) WHAT ---- It would be better if the LTSP chroot files were on the DVD, because ltsp-build-client downloads a lot of stuff from the internet and takes ages even on DSL lines. It would be even better if teachers were able to try out LTSP from the live DVD -slow as it may be- to see if it works for their hardware. HOW (SIZE) ---------- AFAIK, casper uses squashfs, and squashfs has a switch that searches for duplicate files and keeps only one physical instance of them. So in the case where server architecture == chroot architecture, the whole /opt/ltsp/<arch> will only cost a few MB to have on the DVD. Of course we can't have /opt/ltsp/IMAGES on the DVD. But the chroot image can be regenerated in a few minutes with ltsp-update-image. HOW (LIVE) ---------- Assuming that * we don't have /opt/ltsp/images on the DVD, and * the teacher doesn't yet have the proposed network setup for LTSP, as he wants to try it out first before buying switches etc, a "try-out-ltsp" script could be made that: * starts dnsmasq-base (which is in main) in proxydhcp mode so that clients can be booted even if the server has 1 NIC and a DHCP server already exists on the local network, * calls ltsp-update-sshkeys and ltsp-update-image to generate the chroot image. Of course that happens in a tmpfs; but for most modern servers the 200Mb RAM that are needed present no problem. It's easy to do the above things with a script - I can have such a script ready in a few days. I don't know how that script could be included to the DVD building process, and removed upon hard disk installation, though. Also, if the user doesn't want to install LTSP, ltsp-server should be uninstalled and the chroot deleted from the hard disk installation. <div><div></div><div class="h5"> -- edubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:edubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">edubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel</a> </div></div></blockquote></div>