Mentoring for improving wiki pages?

David Groos djgroos at
Sun May 16 00:42:32 UTC 2010

Gavin and Simón thanks for your offers to help me write some good
pages--I'll take you up on all of it, starting with the iTALC.  Also, thanks
for the history--something which I think is important to include, briefly,
in the wiki as well.  Hopefully, others in the community with additional
knowledge, both from a programming and implementation-perspective, will
chime in as needed.

For starters, it would be a great time-saver on my part if people would
direct me to good reference articles on iTALC for Ubuntu (I know it's used
with Windows as well but I'm not focusing on that).  I of course could do a
google search on iTALC (done it many times, actually), however, I don't know
what is outdated or applies to the areas of interest.  The info I'm looking
for is:
--History of the project
--Accuracy of the ubuntu page on italc (it says it is only good for Hardy)
--Differences between versions for Hardy, Jaunty, Karmic, Lucid (I'll be
focusing on Jaunty, Karmic, Lucid)
--Successful applications of iTALC
--CURRENT issues--limitations--with iTALC.
--Theory on iTALC.

Any favorite links or mini-lessons would be much appreciated!


PS--Sounds like we need a tutorial on installing Edubuntu/LTSP from recent
list-server e-mails--it's not that people are dumb, it's that wiki pages
need improving!

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Simón Ruiz <simon.a.ruiz at> wrote:

> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:37 PM, David Groos <djgroos at> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I just turned in my final last night for my statistics class so can now
> > dedicate some more time to edubuntu, again, and, teaching will be out for
> > the year in just about 4 weeks.  Like many users of edubuntu, I need help
> to
> > install/upgrade/troubleshoot/fix things.  One key resource for self-help
> is
> > the wiki.  People have been working hard to improve it as a whole.  I'm
> > suggesting to choose maybe a dozen 'hot spots'--topics that are critical
> to
> > make edubuntu work in a school setting, and make great wiki pages on
> them.
> >
> > A perfect example of what I'm talking about is the work of Gavin and his
> > page.
> While
> > it is true that 3 other people have also improved that page, Gavin made a
> > big effort to make sure this critical task was CLEARLY and thoroughly
> > explained.  There is no such thing as perfect but there is excellent and
> > that page is.
> >
> > I've spent I don't know how many hours battling iTALC and alkisg has
> spent
> > at least 2 or 3 hours trying to help me.  He one time groaned when I told
> > him that I had followed the directions on the wiki.  These might have
> been
> > pretty good for Hardy, but I had Jaunty and just hoped it would work; it
> > didn't, nor does it still.
> >
> > Here are some possible 'sticky points'.  There might be some good wiki
> pages
> > on them now, but when I first tackled these tasks, they were lacking.
> They
> > are critical to many school setups.
> >
> > --iTALC setup
> > --Basic squid proxy setup
> > --Localapps setup
> > --Backup System
> > --using flash
> > --using java
> > --setting up file-sharing systems for one's classes
> >
> > I need to understand iTALC and make it work.   I would be more than happy
> to
> > polish this iTALC wiki page.  I'll need mentoring, a lot at the start,
> but a
> > great wiki page saves time for everyone and helps edubuntu users feel
> > confident.  Is there anyone who knows iTALC that would serve as my
> technical
> > mentor on this wiki page?  What would you add to or remove from the list
> of
> > sticky points?
> I had quite a bit of experience with iTALC back in 2006, in fact the
> article I wrote back then on compiling iTALC from source for Dapper
> <
> >
> is still, according to Google Analytics, the single most visited
> article on my somewhat comatose blog.
> My big problem was simply that there weren't up to date iTALC packages
> for Ubuntu, and building from source gave me that.
> I was working on just "normal" Desktops, though, so I have
> *absolutely* no experience with iTALC on LTSP. (no experience with
> LTSP yet, really)
> Still, I may be able to help if your questions are basically just
> iTALC-related. What problems are you having?
> > David G
> Simón R
> P.S. Just in case you're unaware: iTALC 1.x development ground to a
> halt as the developer (a college student who codes in his free time)
> works on version 2.0. The latest version, 1.0.10, was just released
> after a couple of years break, and it pretty much just includes bug
> fixes.
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