New version of Karoshi
linuxgirlie at gmail.com
Tue Feb 21 19:01:29 UTC 2006
Thanks that sounds good, I don't think the move to Gnome will be that
differcult, we just need to detect what is running ie. KDE or Gnome etc and
then copy in the correct files, for example the icons will only work with
KDE at the moment. Apart from that it should be pretty simple.
On 2/21/06, ksankar at gte.net <ksankar at gte.net> wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense now ;o) Looks like a good
> MOTU project. IMHO, we should make it work in Gnome/Edubuntu. Would be happy
> to pitch in.
> Couple of side notes (in no order!):
> a) I think it would be good to change the PDC name from Xen
> to something else as XEN is a popular virtualization project.
> b) Integration with Gnome is not that hard, I think, we will
> find the menu structures more intuitive.
> c) We should integrate with the ZeroConf for dynamic
> discovery of "stuff"TM
> d) Also it would be good to explore congruence with LTSP and
> other mechanisms in Edubuntu.
> e) In the future we could also explore implementing Becta
> initiatives like identity management (Shib) et al.
> f) I have an Edubuntu talk coming up in a n educator's
> conference. Might show Karoshi as a future possibility and get feedback
> From: edubuntu-devel-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:
> edubuntu-devel-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of linuxgirlie
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:12 AM
> To: Herman Bos
> Cc: edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: New version of Karoshi
> Ahhh well...lol
> As I said in my last message at the moment it only works on KDE,
> if you try and install with Gnome it just sits there and does nothing, we
> have distro support for kubuntu so if KDE was used it would work...either
> that or someone could help us getting it to work with Gnome :)
> On 2/21/06, Herman Bos <hbos at osso.nl> wrote:
> linuxgirlie wrote:
> > ok, here goes:
> > In the UK the majority of schools run a system called RM
> > Connect 3 or CC3 (www.rm.com < http://www.rm.com <
> http://www.rm.com> >), CC3 is a piece of
> > software that runs on top of a fully installed Microsoft
> > server, which at the moment I think they are pushing
> Server 03. CC3
> > allows school administrators to do things such as add
> users, create
> > windows profiles, change passwords, and the majority of
> > network managing things that schools need. Now if you
> where a Windows
> > sys-admin you could do all that without another layer
> but in schools
> > technicians are paid a lot less than there business
> counterparts and
> > quite often are the teacher also, so they need this
> layer to be able
> > to run a working network.
> > Before we started Karoshi we would put Linux in schools
> and as soon as
> > we left they would change back to windows, we decided
> that what Linux
> > needed was an 'RM CC3' so that teachers in school
> wouldn't have to
> > worry about consoles, tar files and Linux configuration.
> > So we started the project with that idea in mind, we
> made it as easy
> > as possible, for example using KDE over Gnome (as it's
> similar to
> > XP-ish style), we have taken away all need of knowledge
> of Linux, for
> > example on the web server we install the school Moodle,
> (we call it
> > the online classroom to make things easier) so first
> when you put the
> > karoshi cd in it configures your web server for you
> installing all
> > necessary packages to run a web page. (This is the same
> for all
> > servers the PDC for example will install all the needed
> software for
> > it to become a PDC) Once the server is 'setup' it will
> ask you if you
> > want to install for example the online classroom. If you
> say yes, it
> > will copy the files to the correct place, populate the
> database and
> > most obviously make sure you have the correct software
> installed and
> > if not install it. Once this is done you get some nice
> icons on the
> > desktop so that you can 'manage' the server, icons can
> be anything
> > from a link to the admin page of Moodle, to a link that
> activates your
> > wake on LAN in a specified computer room.
> > Once we had all the features that RM CC3 provide we
> decided to move on
> > and really go full force with Open Source, so started to
> > features such as a help desk (using help centre live),
> web-based email
> > (using squirrelmail) and more, all was available to
> schools just by a
> > single click of a button, basically we have had a full
> server setup
> > installed by trainee teachers up and running within a
> > the installation of Linux, something none of them had
> done before.
> > So maybe a simple way of putting it is this, Karoshi is
> a set of
> > scripts with nice GUI front end that allows
> > administrators to install, configure and run a Linux
> network without
> > getting in to deep.
> > Let me know if you have anymore questions, I may of
> wandered off
> > during that and I have a funny feeling that I still may
> not of
> > explained it enough!
> > Thanks,
> > Jo
> Well its much more clear now. Couldn't get this from the
> website. :)
> Now the obvious question: Does it work on Edubuntu?
> I guess some features would fit Edubuntu.
Please do not send me Microsoft Office attachments.
Karoshi at Home: http://www.karoshiathome.org.uk
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