Responding to Oliver ref: DHCP Clarification

Robert rganyard at bellsouth.net
Fri Aug 25 20:26:00 UTC 2006



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> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:10:44 -0400
> From: Robert <rganyard at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: LTSP without Edubuntu
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>>    1. Xen source (Trevor Grove)
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>>    4. Re: LTSP without Edubuntu (Jani Monoses)
>>    5. Re: LTSP without Edubuntu (Oliver Grawert)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:20:38 +0100
>> From: "Trevor Grove" <trevorgrove at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Xen source
>> To: edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
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>> I have a Ubuntu desktop system and am trying to run a Xensource live demo
>> CD. I burnt the iso image on an  XP machine using cdburnerxp. It would seem
>> that grub can't see the CD :
>>
>> grub> configfile /dev/rdc
>>
>> Error 12: invalid device requested.
>>
>> But in a terminal window ls -la /dev/fdc gives the iso file name and
>> permissions
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>>
>> any ideas please?
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>> Thanks,
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:31:37 +0200
>> From: Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: Xen source
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>> hi,
>> On Mi, 2006-08-23 at 17:20 +0100, Trevor Grove wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> I have a Ubuntu desktop system and am trying to run a Xensource live
>>> demo CD.
>>>     
>>>       
>> thats not the appropriate list for such a question, this list is about
>> edubuntu development/testing, try the ubuntu-users mailing list for
>> ubuntu support :)
>>
>> ciao
>> 	oli
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:55:15 +0100
>> From: "Steve Smith" <steve.lists at googlemail.com>
>> Subject: LTSP without Edubuntu
>> To: "Edubuntu Devel" <edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
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>> Hi
>>
>> I'm going to be setting up LTSP on Dapper but I don't want the
>> Edubuntu desktop, etc.  Should I follow the instructions here
>> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto), which haven't
>> been updated since Breezy, or is there an easier way?
>>
>> I guesed this would be the most reliable place to ask :)
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Steve
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:44:25 +0300
>> From: Jani Monoses <jani.monoses at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: LTSP without Edubuntu
>> To: edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
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>> Steve Smith wrote:
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>>     
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm going to be setting up LTSP on Dapper but I don't want the
>>> Edubuntu desktop, etc.  Should I follow the instructions here
>>> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto), which haven't
>>> been updated since Breezy, or is there an easier way?
>>>
>>> I guesed this would be the most reliable place to ask :)
>>>     
>>>       
>> The Xubuntu alternate CD contains a LTSP boot option that may be closer
>> to what you want, but it's an Xfce not a Gnome desktop that you end up with.
>>
>> Jani
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:32:42 +0200
>> From: Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: LTSP without Edubuntu
>> To: edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <1156408362.5216.4.camel at edubuntu>
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>> hi,
>> On Do, 2006-08-24 at 01:55 +0100, Steve Smith wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm going to be setting up LTSP on Dapper but I don't want the
>>> Edubuntu desktop, etc.  Should I follow the instructions here
>>> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClientHowto), which haven't
>>> been updated since Breezy, or is there an easier way?
>>>     
>>>       
>> it once was written as easy as the page pointed below, but many
>> community additions made it very complicated for the common user to
>> read. but since i think there is valuable info on it, i rather created
>> the page below than deleting stuff from the older thin client howto
>> page ... it should probably be linked from there.
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> I guesed this would be the most reliable place to ask :)
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>> right, it is :)
>> see:
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
>>
>> ciao
>> 	oli
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>   
>>     
> I too, would like to run LTSP on Dapper without the Edubuntu Desktop. I 
> like the quick install guide. I am confused about DHCP. My DSL 
> modem/router handles dhcp upstream on the network before getting to the 
> Dapper box. I have two ethernet ports, eth1 for upstream and eth0 
> available for LTSP on the Dapper box. Does LTSP handle dhcp only for 
> eth0? Does this cause no conflict with the router dhcp upstream 
> connected to eth1? I prefer not to mess with the router config since it 
> it provided by my ISP. I am a recent convert so here's hoping my 
> questions are clear. Thanks much for the learning experience.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:48:49 +0200
> From: Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: LTSP without Edubuntu
> To: edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <1156423729.13472.4.camel at edubuntu>
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> hi
> On Do, 2006-08-24 at 08:10 -0400, Robert wrote:
>   
>>>   
>>>       
>> I too, would like to run LTSP on Dapper without the Edubuntu Desktop.
>> I like the quick install guide. I am confused about DHCP. My DSL
>> modem/router handles dhcp upstream on the network before getting to
>> the Dapper box. I have two ethernet ports, eth1 for upstream and eth0
>> available for LTSP on the Dapper box. Does LTSP handle dhcp only for
>> eth0? Does this cause no conflict with the router dhcp upstream
>> connected to eth1? I prefer not to mess with the router config since
>> it it provided by my ISP. I am  a recent convert  so here's hoping my
>> questions are clear. Thanks much for the learning experience. 
>>     
>
> if you configure eth0 to have the static IP 192.168.0.1, the ubuntu
> dhcpd will only register to that interface and leave the eth1 interface
> alone, its intelligent enough to only serve on static interfaces with a
> matching IP (indeed eth1 shouldnt should have a 192.168.0.xxx address as
> well, that wouldnt work, so make sure your router doesnt provide IPs
> from that range or change /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf *and* the IP of eth0 to
> match another network address)
>
> ciao
> 	oli
>
>
>   
Hi Oliver,
Your explanation of DHCP configuration was exactly what I needed. I 
signed on to a terminal today for the first time. This LTSP is exciting 
to say the least.

Thanks,
Bob
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:48:49 +0200
> From: Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: LTSP without Edubuntu
> To: edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <1156423729.13472.4.camel at edubuntu>
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> hi
> On Do, 2006-08-24 at 08:10 -0400, Robert wrote:
>   
>>>   
>>>       
>> I too, would like to run LTSP on Dapper without the Edubuntu Desktop.
>> I like the quick install guide. I am confused about DHCP. My DSL
>> modem/router handles dhcp upstream on the network before getting to
>> the Dapper box. I have two ethernet ports, eth1 for upstream and eth0
>> available for LTSP on the Dapper box. Does LTSP handle dhcp only for
>> eth0? Does this cause no conflict with the router dhcp upstream
>> connected to eth1? I prefer not to mess with the router config since
>> it it provided by my ISP. I am  a recent convert  so here's hoping my
>> questions are clear. Thanks much for the learning experience. 
>>     
>
> if you configure eth0 to have the static IP 192.168.0.1, the ubuntu
> dhcpd will only register to that interface and leave the eth1 interface
> alone, its intelligent enough to only serve on static interfaces with a
> matching IP (indeed eth1 shouldnt should have a 192.168.0.xxx address as
> well, that wouldnt work, so make sure your router doesnt provide IPs
> from that range or change /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf *and* the IP of eth0 to
> match another network address)
>
> ciao
> 	oli
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:20:40 -0400
> From: Bob McCaa <rmccaa at tiu11.org>
> Subject: "Tiny sub-$100 PC runs Puppy Linux"
> To: edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com, k12osn at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1156443640.5760.1.camel at tech-do-rrm.jcsdk12.org>
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> Saw this on DIGG
>
> http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS6828123924.html
>
> "A Bangkok-based company is shipping a tiny, sub-$100 PC capable of
> running Puppy and other lightweight Linux distributions. NorhTec's
> MicroClient Jr. measures 4.5 inches square, draws 8 Watts, and has a
> 166MHz Pentium-compatible processor with three integer units. It targets
> thin-client, kiosk, and electronic signage applications."
>
> Might be nice for K12LTSP labs on a budget.
>
>
>
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