<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> First, good luck getting Simon to vote - he still owes me contact for stuff. +1 from me on Paride's application. Thomas <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/16/21 04:41, Lukasz Zemczak wrote: </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CADH+4gYT3OYS8BpqRu2MzByu7zaeLsCj2KXD7ZM6=CULiPrM1g@mail.gmail.com"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">In the meantime, could we maybe try handling this via e-mail? Maybe the absent members could vote here, via e-mail - or ask questions if they're not sure about their vote just yet. Thomas? Simon? Eric? Do you have any questions, or can you maybe already vote on Paride's application here, on this mailing thread? Cheers, On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 at 10:12, Paride Legovini <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:paride@ubuntu.com"><paride@ubuntu.com></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> Dan Streetman wrote on 14/12/2021: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 11:00 AM Robie Basak <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:robie.basak@ubuntu.com"><robie.basak@ubuntu.com></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 01:14:00PM -0500, Dan Streetman wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 8:20 AM Paride Legovini <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:paride@ubuntu.com"><paride@ubuntu.com></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> Dear DMB, I hereby apply to become a Core Developer: </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> At the DMB meeting on 2021-12-13, your application received three +1 votes, which was unanimous of those DMB members attending, however per our rules we need one more +1 vote for the application to pass, or the application needs a simple majority of votes at the next scheduled DMB meeting. Since our meeting ran quite long, some of our DMB members were not able to stay for the entire meeting. @rbasak can you provide your vote, which I believe was +1 in this case? That will be enough +1 votes for the application to pass. </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> I have generally been trying to follow the policy that I will abstain if the applicant is a member of my team at Canonical. So I would really prefer the three other DMB members would vote, because that would be the most consistent way of handling this conflict of interest. As an exception, since DMB attendance at meetings has historically been poor and it's harmful for applications to drag on, I've been providing a +1 if (and only if) my vote will then achieve the absolute majority requirement and all other votes are unanimously in favour. In other words, only if there are 3 +1s and no other votes at a meeting. But now we have a simple majority being sufficient at a subsequent meeting (new DMB rule), so perhaps it would be better to follow this instead, to eliminate my exception above which wasn't great to do anyway. I think then, going forward, I will simply abstain in the case of a Canonical team member applicant, and allow the new simple majority rule to take care of the case when other members are absent. So no formal vote from me - sorry - but I hope that you understand the reason. Even though I am in favour of Paride becoming a core dev. I'll allow the simple majority requirement to kick in on the next meeting. </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> So though we canceled the Dec 27 meeting, as I mentioned at the end of our last meeting I'm planning to hold a 'pro forma' session to continue the 'absence counter' as outlined in our recent rules change that introduced mandatory maximum number of missed meetings for members, so that we can proceed to looking for new DMB members as soon as possible in 2022. If you'd prefer to continue to abstain from the vote, I'm happy to hold a short meeting Dec 27 by myself to unanimously vote in favor of Paride. That should cover all technicalities and stay within our rules and regulations. </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> First of all a big thanks to the DMB for allowing me to discuss my application at the 2021-12-13 meeting, despite it being overtime. @Dan I appreciate your willingness to handle the simple majority vote for my application on 2021-12-27, thank you. By all means, do so only if it doesn't stretch the DMB rules, and if you are going to hold the meeting in any case. I can wait until the following meeting, it is just not fully clear to me if I have to add my name in the agenda as an applicant, or if my application will count as a carried-over item. 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