[Bug 28798] new logout dialog interface issues

[Sean Middleditch]

Public bug report changed:
https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/28798

Comment:
If I had concise ideas on replacements, I'd have given them straight
off.  :-)  Does KDE use icons for this stuff, and if so, what do their
icons look like?

So far as distinguishing sleep and hibernate... I as a user (and a very
technically advanced one at that) really have no freakin' clue what the
difference is between the two, so it's hard to say.  I really don't
think there *should* be icons for both, as I said in the original
report; most users don't know the difference and both of them should
probably be hardware initiated (closing the laptop lid) versus a menu.
If I had to go to some menu to put my iBook to sleep I'd never even
bother doing it.

What exactly is the use case for having sleep/hibernate in the logout
dialog?  Is there some class of users that actually needs this?  Is it
necessary only because some other part of the system (gnome-power-
manager, for example) isn't doing its job right?

Looking right now I see there are new dialogs in place after today's
apt-get upgrade.  Are these your new replacements?  I like them.  I do
have two comments on them:

First, I don't think dialog titles are supposed to be questions,
according to the HIG.  I can't really think of a good title for either
dialog, though... maybe asking for suggestions on the GNOME lists (as
these look like good inclusions for being upstreamed) would help.

Second, these dialogs are confirmation alerts.  All alert dialogs are
supposed to be modal in relation to their application.  In the case of
session management dialogs, the "application" is the whole desktop.  The
real problem being that they don't have window titles and don't appear
in the window list, but they can under up behind/under other application
windows, making them impossible to find without closing/hiding other
application windows.  I don't know if modal is correct, but at least
ensuring that they stay on top of all other windows would be a good
improvement.

Thanks for being awesome and working on this stuff, Manu!