<div dir="ltr">I began using bzr a few years back simply because it was the default with Ubuntu. I figured that would be a safe choice! Now I wish I had gone with git... but I can do what I need to do in bzr and it will not generate business value for me to traverse the git learning curve. Under these circumstances, with a small / dwindling dev community and a hugely exploding alternative, I think the best bet for the bzr community is to *keep things working*: fix bugs, update plugins, adapt to new tools in the external environment (Python 3). It seems to me that bzr's future is as a clean, stable, relatively user-friendly alternative to git that works well for small teams that prefer simplicity (and want to avoid their developers spending too much time customizing git ...)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Fred Zimmerman<br>Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><b style="color:rgb(153,0,255)"><font size="2"><a href="http://www.pagekicker.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">PageKicker</a> -- real-time, customized, mobile, social deep content<br><br><font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(53,28,117)">Nimble Books LLC -- innovative, idiosyncratic independent publisher on military, naval, and politics</span></span></font></font></b><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Brendan Simon (eTRIX) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brendan.simon@etrix.com.au" target="_blank">brendan.simon@etrix.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 18:34:54 -0700
From: Kevin <a href="mailto:m1ndstr3ngthapps@gmail.com" target="_blank"><m1ndstr3ngthapps@gmail.com></a>
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Subject: How can we ensure Bazaar (bzr) remains active?
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Hello, Bazaar users/devs:
I'm a professional software engineer and have been using Mercurial
(|hg|) DVCS for about a year. I've tried Git but I did not like it,
Mercurial was much more user-friendly. These two SCM projects are very
active; lots of contributors committing often to trunk. I just recently
discovered Bazaar (|bzr|) and I have found it to be the very best,
user-friendly, intuitive DVCS; more than any other.
Sadly, the latest stable release is over 2 years old, and the latest
stable Windows release is over 3 years old! :-( This detracts potential
users from using bzr, thinking that it must be not well supported; or
that it is not as popular as git and hg because it is somehow "not as good".
I would love to contribute and help fix bugs and implement new features
to ensure that this excellent SCM project continues with a healthy
development community.
I've already switched my projects to use bzr and have begun to use
Launchpad.
I joined the bazaar mailing list today, asked questions in Ask Ubuntu
and Ubuntu's FB page, and have submitted a request in bazaar's Launchpad
page to join the bzr-core team (request currently pending).
Please let me know anything else I can do to help. I want the Bazaar
DVCS to be more active, I think it's a great software tool! :-) We
cannot (and should not) allow such an awesome DVCS to fall into a state
of being unused, ignored, and eventually abandoned. Rather, let's
improve it, spread it, and use it!
Thanks:
Kevin
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<font color="#663300">I originally chose Bazaar for my DVCS (based
on the marketing of the 3 main contenders, Git, Mercurial,
Bazaar), because the UI sounded well planned, was supported by a
reputable open-source friendly company (Canonical), and as written
in 100% (or close to) python (a language I really like).<br>
<br>
I ended up switching to Git because Bazaar activity seemed to
dwindle as core developers moved on to other things. Also because
I couldn't find a decent GUI, and good quality Git GUIs were
available (e.g. SourceTree), lots of modern IDEs (e.g. Eclipse)
have good support for Git,</font><font color="#663300"><font color="#663300"> and choice of some hosted repositories (GitHub,
BitBucket, GitLabs, etc)</font>.<br>
Git was now the defacto DVCS so I ended up not trying to fight the
system<br>
<br>
I've now been using Git more regularly at a new job, and though it
is working I do see some of it's complexity -- part of which is
understanding the whole Git workflow and working consistently with
other team members (which I'm sure is the same for any DVCS). The
speed or design of sourcetree is also giving me some grief, though
that may be the underlying Git?<br>
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One thing that may get Bazaar some recognition is to get some
integration into a popular DVCS hosted provider. I am thinking
Atlassian and BitBucket (what I like about BitBucket is the
unlimited free private repositories). I don't know how Bazaar
compares to Mercurial, but if it has some significant advantages,
then having Atalassian take it on officially or unofficially, and
get it supported in SourceTree and BitBucket, then Bazaar may
slowly gain enough momentum to make it viable again -- maybe even
the DVCS of choice.<br>
I imagine it would only work if there are no road blocks from
Canonical (if there are any).<br>
<br>
So in essence:<br>
* a good GUI (SourceTree?)<br>
* a popular hosted repository solution (BitBucket)</font><br>
<font color="#663300"><font color="#663300"> * some good plugins
for the major IDEs (Eclipse and Visual Studio)<br>
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Cheers, Brendan.<br>
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