That was my experience. Though I also found slightly different behavior in just another terminal, but that seemed to be more about whether the result got displayed to the screen. John =:-> <div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 26, 2011 7:17 AM, "Martin Pool" <<a href="mailto:mbp@canonical.com">mbp@canonical.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On 26 October 2011 16:15, John Meinel <<a href="mailto:john@arbash-meinel.com">john@arbash-meinel.com</a>> wrote: > Shutdown didn't seem to do anything either fwiw. If I got to recv there > wasn't anything I could find that would make it return other than closing > the client end. Do you mean s/client end/remote end/, and you're saying there's no way you can cause recv to fail from within the same process that's calling recv? m </blockquote></div>