Bzr development stopped

Jelmer Vernooij jelmer at samba.org
Sun Nov 25 02:55:16 UTC 2012


On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 18:20 -0800, Chris Hecker wrote:
> I may be in the minority, but I don't care that much about the ui or
> simplicity of the command line, but I need to be able to rename files
> without duplicating them in the repo, I want empty directories, I want
> the hybrid centralized stuff (and more of this, actually), and I need
> windows support to be good.
FWIW, git and bzr deduplicate storing renamed files in roughly the same
way. In both VCSes renaming a file generally shouldn't cause that files
contents to be stored more than once.

Cheers,

Jelmer

> On 2012/11/24 14:02, Jelmer Vernooij wrote:
> > On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 12:34 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> >> On Nov 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Jelmer Vernooij wrote:
> >>> For myself to be interested in contributing to Bazaar (and I suspect for
> >>> others as well), I think it's important to have a vision for the
> >>> project. Retrospectives would be useful here.
> >>>
> >>> I've considered doing a friendly fork (no CLA's, etc) of Bazaar that
> >>> integrated bzr-git and bzr-fastimport (and perhaps other plugins) and
> >>> switched it to the git format as the default format, rather than 2a.
> >>> That way it would just be another part of the git ecosystem rather than
> >>> its own small corner of the world.
> >>
> >> As you know, I've advocated for something like this for many years.  I know
> >> when we've talked about this in the past, it was pointed out that git format
> >> doesn't support everything that 2a supports.  You'd know the details much
> >> better than I, but IIRC, renames and directory tracking were the two main
> >> missing features.  Still, it might be easier to join forces and lobby for
> >> improvements in git format from within.
> > You have. :-) bzr-git has some experimental support for tracking empty
> > directories, renames and revision properties in the git format. It still
> > needs a lot of work before that is usable in production though (just run
> > the bzr repository tests against bzr-git to see).
> > 
> >> I don't see Bazaar or Mercurial going away any time soon, but I think git has
> >> basically won top dog.  So I'd vote for making it usable for normal humans by
> >> keeping as much of Bazaar's superior ui and model as possible.
> > Agreed.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Jelmer
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 





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