Apologies

[Russel Winder]

Ben,

On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 20:13 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> Nicolas Pinault <nicolasp at aaton.com> writes:
> 
> > I would like to apology for having cross posted my first message. This
> > was not my intention.
> > Even if I have written "This message is sent to Bazaar and Mercurial
> > user lists", I wanted to send this message as two separate ones. One
> > on each list. When I realised my mistake, it was too late.
> 
> I think it's unfortunate that the discussion was blocked between the two
> forums. It seemed that there were a number of misconceptions on both
> sides about the other VCS tool, that can only really be addressed when
> such a cross-project discussion occurs.
> 
> In the absence of that, the tendency is for such misconceptions to go
> unexamined because there is no incentive to expose them. I know I would
> not likely have learned what I did about the current state of Mercurial
> without that discussion.
> 
> That said, I'm not an administrator of either forum, and I respect the
> authority of those who must do the work of administration.

Likewise I agree it is the administrators privilege to run the lists as
they choose, but I also agree wholeheartedly that there is too much
warfare between the Git, Mercurial and Bazaar communities and not enough
communication, let alone collaboration.

I am now having to use all three regularly and each has its quirks,
irritations and USPs.  I won't go into a long essay here doing a
comparison, but it has become clear to me that Bazaar appears to be
missing some functionality, and that is whole repository operations --
though it may be that I have missed something.

Perhaps the obvious example is working with Subversion.  Mercurial
+hgsubversion and Git+git-svn allow for monitoring and interacting with
the whole repository.  Bazaar+bzr-svn doesn't allow working with the
whole repository, only with individual branches.  cf. Jelmer's comment
about this and using svn-import in an earlier thread.

On the "not so trivial" front, I am finding "hg incoming" and "hg
outgoing" easier to work with than "bzr missing".

I wonder if finding some way of collecting together these sorts of
reaction to Git, Mercurial, Subversion and Bazaar would be a good way of
getting input into how to progress Bazaar?

-- 
Russel.
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