Any ex ClearCase or VSS users out there?

Ian Clatworthy ian.clatworthy at canonical.com
Wed Oct 21 20:41:51 BST 2009


Maritza Mendez wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Krzysztof Nowicki <krissn at op.pl
> <mailto:krissn at op.pl>> wrote:
> 
>     Voelker, Bernhard pisze:
>     > But I got a major difference between CC and bzr:
>     > In "normal" (i.e. dynamic views), it's not possible to change a file
>     > without a "checkout"; checkout of a file means "tell the CC server
>     that
>     > I'm gonna change that file" and usually the file is locked for
>     concurrent
>     > checkouts (unless -unreserved given).

> My company uses ClearCase. 

So it sounds like we have at least 3 people quite familiar with
ClearCase. Knowledge of tool X is actually more important than Bazaar
knowledge when writing these docs because they *must* be written from
the perspective of an existing tool X user.

Would someone like to have a go at fleshing out some common ClearCase
tasks and how they think they are done in Bazaar. Don't worry about
being wrong: I'm sure the others will let you know (politely) how to do
things differently if appropriate. :-)

Here's the template to use:
http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/migration/en/_sources/survival/bzr-for-cleartool-users.txt.
A crash course in ReST formatting can be found here:
http://sphinx.pocoo.org/rest.html.

> What I will say is that the complexity (and high cost) which comes with
> managing ClearCase is a primary reason why some of our teams have
> already moved to bzr.  Elegant ease of setup and use is one of the
> greatest strengths of bzr.

It is. We could do with some more docs on server admin though as the
recently discussions re bzr_access and backups have shown.

> More tools to facilitate migration from
> ClearCase to bzr would be welcome, and I would treat that as a one-way
> trip.  I don't plan to ever look back.

Cool. Right now, I believe the best way of migrating is via Subversion.
It would be really nice to get a clearcase-fast-export tool written some
day!

Ian C.



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