[RFC] Website refresh for 2.0.0

Ian Clatworthy ian.clatworthy at canonical.com
Mon Sep 28 01:09:59 BST 2009

Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Ian Clatworthy writes:
>  > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>  > > Ah, a second comment: the logos are poorly aligned to my eye.  Maybe a
>  > > slightly different background for them?
>  > 
>  > Emma has made some fixes. Are these better now?
> No.  My eyes want to see the text baselines of those logos aligned,
> and especially the baseline of "ubuntu" and "and you".  (BTW, I agree
> with Russel IIRC who said "and you" doesn't (quite) "work".  I wonder
> if "and now you" might be better?  Or an empty rectangle, labelled
> "reserved for you"?  You could have a "new user of the week" slot
> there.)
>  > Martin has suggested expanding the set of operating systems on the top
>  > level so that Ubuntu/Debian, Fedora/Red hat and a few others are
>  > explicitly pulled out rather than just bundled under GNU/Linux. I think
>  > that makes a lot of sense. I don't think Emma wants lots of "Get Bazaar
>  > for xxx" buttons on the home page
> Gawd, no!  Listen to Emma! :)
>  > so maybe the text under "Get Bazaar" ought to have direct links for
>  > the main OSs. Sound OK?
> You mean like this?
>     Bazaar runs on _Windows_,
>     _Mac OS X_, _GNU/Linux_ and
>     _UNIX_.  Its only _requirement_   # Wow! Somebody knows how to spell "its"!
>     is Python.

I was thinking of ...

Bazaar runs on _Windows_, _Ubuntu/Debian_, _Fedora/Red hat_, _OS X_ and
many more platforms.

> No, I don't think that expanding GNU/Linux is a good idea.
> Bazaar should not be in the business (ie, make promises) to provide
> packages for systems where it is supplied natively.  Nothing wrong
> with doing so, but I don't think they're worth direct links.

I suspect our user base looks something like:

* 40-50% on Ubuntu/Debian
* 30-40% on Windows
* 10-30% of other platforms.

I think pulling out Ubuntu/Debian is therefore worthwhile for our user
base. My reasoning for putting Windows first is that most potential
users run on that platform.

> Using a
> Bazaar-provided .deb rather than getting it via aptitude is a special
> case IMO.  There's definitely a "sweet spot" between waiting for a
> .deb (especially in Debian stable :-) and using the source distro
> (presumably installed by default into /usr/local), so providing .debs
> will be greatly appreciated ... but by how many?

See above. FWIW, I wasn't planning to point directly to .deb, .rpm or
.exe files. I was thing on pointing to
http://bazaar-vcs.org/WindowsDownloads, etc.

>  > Sure. Please go ahead and make those changes. (It's a wiki.)
> yah, but I'm an academic ... where I live, merely suggesting changes
> to people's words often results in an invitation to join Galois.  ...I
> guess I'll just have to get over it and join the Wiki Generation.

Yep. Just Do It. :-)

Ian C.

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