bzr-gtk vs. QBzr

[Jelmer Vernooij]

Russel Winder wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 08:20 +1100, Mark Hammond wrote:
>> On 6/03/2009 11:03 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
>>
>>> Is this an indicator that Olive-GTK and bzr-gtk are going to be left to
>>> decay leaving QBzr and TortoiseBzr as the GUIs?  If so then the pressure
>>> would be on QBzr to develop a GUI similar to Olive-GTK.
>> Surely you mean the "pressure" would be on the volunteers who felt 
>> strongly enough about this to make it happen, rather than implying the 
>> existing qbzr volunteers would have any kind of obligation?
> 
> This is an interesting, and not entirely straightforward, issue.
> 
> The vast majority of people using Subversion do so via TortoiseSVN, but
> this aligns with being Windows users.  Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X, etc.
> users have RapidSvn and the like but as far as I can tell command line
> is what gets used by these people.  However this is a minority usage (by
> a very long way).   Accessing Subversion via Subclipse or Subversive
> with Eclipse, and the equivalent with NetBeans and IntelliJ IDEA
> probably swamps actual command line usage by programmers, etc.
> 
> Reasoning by analogy, the vast majority of Bazaar users are going to be
> TortoiseBzr users -- unless Bazaar is a niche product that fails to
> begin to replace Subversion.  Likewise Eclipse, NetBeans and IntelliJ
> IDEA plugins will likely be the standard way programmers access any VCS.
> This leaves GUI access on Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X as a tiny minority
> activity because these people use the command line and the history of
> Subversion GUI clients on these platforms is not strong, i.e. there is a
> lot of inertia against their use.
> 
> As I understand it, QBzr is the toolkit used by the majority of Bazaar
> GUI things, TortoiseBzr, Eclipse plugin -- I don't know about NetBeans
> or IntelliJ IDEA but given the reasons for using Qt rather than GTK in
> TortoiseBzr and the Eclipse plugin then it seems likely that QBzr is the
> prime toolkit.

The Eclipse plugin doesn't use QBzr, it uses the native Eclipse toolkit.
TortoiseBzr uses QBzr, I hardly think a single GUI thing counts as "the
majority".

Cheers,

Jelmer