Personal experiences/anecdotes of the bzr review processes
Robert Collins
robertc at robertcollins.net
Wed Sep 24 06:15:11 BST 2008
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 12:19 +1000, Mark Hammond wrote:
> >
> > Agreed. I think process guidelines are just guidelines. Just because
> > something isn't pinned down does not make it unrecognisable.
>
> But it also runs the risk of allowing an individuals personal style to get
> too wound up in the process. It shouldn't be a case of "I'll ask XYZ to
> perform a review because I know they aren't going to ask me to re-paint it
> green."
I agree. And when that happens its bad. Its also bad when process
replaces doing things well.
> There should be confidence that the same basic review response will come
> regardless of who actually performs it.
I for one welcome the arrival of our new AI overlords. (I don't
guarantee I'll give the same review hour by hour.)
> Maybe it could be phrased something like "Tweaks relates to style issues
> will only be requested when it is believed every bzr core developer would
> raise the same objection.
paraphrasing, I read this as 'dont ask for improvements unless every
core developer will see it as an improvement'.
Which means... every review needs every core dev to look at it!
> In other words, unless it is felt there is clear
> consensus about the style, a patch should not need re-tweaking due to the
> style. Further, patches are not the place for debating such style - either
> there is clear consensus (so it *must* change) or there is not (so it *must
> not* hold up review)"
>
> I hope my intent is clear - enforcing *personal* style that isn't
> necessarily a project wide requirement can be counterproductive for everyone
> involved.
I think there are two quite different issues.
One is being the subject of a tug-of-war between two devs, which is
largely limited to folk that haven't earnt PQM submission status yet.
I think we should avoid this one.
The other is mandating complete consensus before anything moves forward.
I think this one does not make sense.
-Rob
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