Bzr plugins *must* die!

John Arbash Meinel john at arbash-meinel.com
Wed Sep 24 02:57:55 BST 2008


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Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> Robert Collins wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 11:32 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
>>>
>>> Erik already said he works with OS-distributed Bazaar, avoiding
>>> nightly snapshots. Why would you ask about nightly snapshots of other
>>> tools?
>> He's using the ppa, which is not OS-distributed, its bzr-dev-team builds
>> for Ubuntu.
> 
> On Hardy I'm using 1.3.1-1ubuntu0.1 which is the distro version.
> 
> On Dapper I'm using the ppa version because Dapper's bzr won't
> work on a tree that has been touched by Hardy's bzr.
> 
> Erik

Out of curiousity, why do you feel the need to continually upgrade the dapper
version, rather than just having it at 1.3.1 as well?

I think what you are primarily running into, is that bzrtools is not instantly
packaged at the same time bzr is. As you are running a ppa version, there can
easily be ~1 day for some to package both tools (sometimes more, sometimes less.)

I think *specifically* for bzrtools and dapper it may not be packaged at all
yet. Looking here:
https://edge.launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive

I see only 1.5 for dapper, and 1.6 for feisty+ (the unfortunate thing is that
python packaging in general changed between dapper and feisty, requiring
different support tools to build packages for both. python-central versus
python-support)

I would say it all boils down to... ~dapper is not getting proper packages for
all plugins that you would like to use. Which is a reasonable request, and one
which has some onus on bzr developers and some on authors of plugins.

I personally would rather see the "release bzr" process include packaging of
plugins to put into the ppa, rather than combining it into the source tarball.

John
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