bazaar performance with single large project and a comparison with?git / mercurial
Talden
talden at gmail.com
Sat Apr 26 04:01:07 BST 2008
> > > Our developers are a mix of Windows, Cygwin and likely to soon also
> > > include linux users. The users are located in three different
> > > continents with two of the three teams using CVS over a WAN with some
> > > fairly severe latency, bandwidth and unfortunately reliability issues.
> >
> > How does ClearCase work over WANs?
> > As for ways to rule out ClearCase, have you tried to come up with
> > a benchmark that measures the server's load? It may be irrelevant in
> > some sense, but management may not notice whether it's relevant.
>
> From what I hear (which may be urban myth but...) ClearCase
> pragmatically requires dedicated sys admins for any sizeable
> installations, not to mention the licence costs. Any cost conscious
> manager will therefore not want to use ClearCase so to avoid charges to
> the budget.
This is not a myth. Conversations with CMs in our new corporate
parent confirm that they'd expect dedicated staff, possibly even one
per site. ClearCase was a fairly recent standards decision in the new
corporate - I'm yet to be convinced that they looked at and understood
the entire SCM/VCS space before they made their decisions - they have
also set similar standards for most of the rest of the rational
toolbox and are already having issues. Reduced cost would seem
unlikely to be a strong argument - this is a multi billion-dollar
company and they seem to think that cost is a necessary component of
this process.
I have had some small team experience with ClearCase and found it
painful then - other than UCM nothing much appears to have improved.
I'm ever hopeful that our tiny team can demonstrate that their choice
of process is a major reason for their agility and success and that we
won't be forced into a prescriptive system that stifles our
productivity.
I think that, because these OSS projects aren't commercially driven
that they don't feel the need to market themselves by attacking the
weaknesses of their commercial competitors where it hurts - cost of
operation is more than just licenses, it's also management overhead,
productivity loss and, to some degree a loss of freedom to innovate.
The DVCS's need to explain why they're a stronger choice and convert
the market before the commercial tools with their brand identity move
to adopt the same approaches - if we want free software to win out it
needs to work harder to show that it's not just 'as good' in many
cases but often 'better'.
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Talden
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