Basic questions
Michael Hipp
Michael at Hipp.com
Wed Jan 23 16:20:59 GMT 2008
Thanks for the answers, John and all the others too. The news about Pageant is
especially good.
Michael
John Arbash Meinel wrote:
> Michael Hipp wrote:
>> Hello, I'm considering using Bazaar. A few simple questions:
>>
>> 1. Does Bazaar preserve file timestamps? (I'm speaking of 'mtime').
>
> No, and it doesn't preserve them on purpose. Timestamps between machines
> are always tricky. (How many times with CVS have I gotten into a state
> where it wanted to commit all my files over and over because the server
> and my local machine had time skew?)
>
> Further it is possible to merge someone else's code (or bzr update) and
> end up with clock times way in the past. So the build products appear
> *newer* than the recently-but-marked-still-old-changed file.
>
> As a quick example:
>
> USER A: checkout trunk
> USER B: checkout trunk
> USER A: commit
> USER B: build
> USER B: update
> USER B: build
>
> Notice that the first "build" happens after the commit, which means that
> the update would set the timestamps to earlier than the build products.
>
> Is there a specific need that you have for preserving timestamps? There
> are things you could do with hooks based on update/commit/etc.
>
>>
>> 2. Has anyone used it with PSFTP or PLINK (Putty components) from
>> Windows?
>>
>
> As mentioned in the other thread, plink works, but we also can talk
> directly to pageant. There are problems with plink not being able to
> take control of the terminal.
>
> I've also had very good success using win32 native bzr with cygwin's
> openssh. (I use native bzr because cygwin python is about 50% slower.)
>
>> 3. How well does it handle and differentiate binary files (vs. textual)?
>>
>
> At the moment it treats everything as "binary" which happens to have
> newlines. There is some code so that "diff" won't spew binary data to
> your screen. Generally, though, the storage preserves exactly whatever
> files you have.
>
>> 4. Is there somewhere a tutorial on setting up a repository on my
>> Ubuntu Dapper box in similar fashion to 'svnserve'?
>>
>> Thanks, hope this isn't all too old hat.
>>
>> Michael Hipp
>> Heber Springs, AR, USA
>
>
> I'm not sure what you are trying to set up. There is:
>
> bzr serve --directory=/path/to/repository
>
> Which will open up a "bzr://" service running on port 4155 (IANA
> registered port for 'bzr://').
>
> Alternatively, you can just use:
>
> bzr checkout bzr+ssh://host/absolute/path
>
> Which uses ssh and then spawns bzr on the other side (similar to svn+ssh).
>
> Further than that, we can be used over plain http, so you can just
> export the directory. It may be a little bit slower than serving over
> the bzr protocol, but with the new --pack-0.92 format it does quite well
> for <= medium sized projects.
>
> It is also possible to serve the "bzr" smart protocol over http
> (bzr+http). It is a little bit tricky to set up. We had a couple bugs
> that prevented advanced configuration, but Andrew has sorted all of them
> out for bzr 1.2.
>
> To look for details you can look at:
>
> doc/en/user-guide/http_smart_server.txt
>
> Or online at:
>
> http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/user-guide/http_smart_server.html
>
> John
> =:->
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