On 12/10/05, Timo Jyrinki <<a href="mailto:timo.jyrinki@hut.fi">timo.jyrinki@hut.fi</a>> wrote:<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > That's only an idea though, as I have no access to the > central repository to try it myself... (although I could > possible try the develop some kind of automated repackagind > robot in my own PC). About the usage of possible space savings: where is it needed? In my opinion including all languages' language packs would be the best thing to have. I think the limit of the CD size hasn't been a factor in what programs are included on the Ubuntu CDs, but the one thing that is downloaded from the Internet because of size constraints is the language files for most of the not-top-20-spoken languages.</blockquote><div> The CD size is always a potential issue. The download time is a big issue too, because it's multiplied by the number of people that download the package. In my case, I'm behind a 256 kbps cable modem (which is the usual connection around here for broadband); under real conditions it takes about 8 hours to download a CD image. Savings of 15% mean more than one hour, which may not sound a lot but would make difference for me. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">The figures for combined language pack files are very promising: > .tar.gz:  61,478,589 > .tar.bz2: 49,982,949 > .tar.7z:  23,081,869 I think all of the language packs could be included in .tar.7z format for the size of the current separate bz2 files. Doing this only for the langpacks would have the benefit of not messing with the whole archive (something Canonical might not want to do for Dapper??), but the negative side would be to find a solution to how language packs would be compressed "as a whole" on the CD and still have a way to extract separate language pack deb:s. </blockquote></div> That's the real problem - having all language packs inside one single deb would imply that all languages would be installed at once. I don't think that we'll find an easy way around this one. -- Carlos Ribeiro Consultoria em Projetos blog: <a href="http://rascunhosrotos.blogspot.com">http://rascunhosrotos.blogspot.com</a> blog: <a href="http://pythonnotes.blogspot.com">http://pythonnotes.blogspot.com </a> mail: <a href="mailto:carribeiro@gmail.com">carribeiro@gmail.com</a> mail: <a href="mailto:carribeiro@yahoo.com">carribeiro@yahoo.com</a>