<div>On 10/17/05, Reinhard Tartler <<a href="mailto:siretart@gmail.com">siretart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On 10/17/05, John Dong <<a href="mailto:jdong@ubuntu.com">jdong@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: > Hey, I'm pretty busy recently, and need some help from the community for > making Java packages. > >  It looks legal to have the user download the .bin package from Sun (so it's > gonna be an interactive deb), and place it in /tmp, then have java-package > process a deb, and somehow get that .deb to install (most likely extracted > and data.tar.gz unpacked into /root, since you can't call dpkg -i in the > middle of a dpkg operation). > > >  If someone would like to take a look into that, I'd greatly appreciate it! We already have a package named "java-package" in both hoary and breezy, which does exactly that. I think this is what you mean.</blockquote><div> I personally find java-package more than sufficient for my needs, but there are a large number of users that  want apt-get fetchable packages. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">The users needs to download the package themselves, because sun insists that the users sees the licence agreement. It is therefore perhaps not legal to redistribute a direct download link (I am not a lawyer, but better safe than sorry, imo)</blockquote><div> No, it's not, but it's legal to do it Gentoo's way, which is to have the user download the .bin from Sun, tell Portage where it's located, and then Portage works much like java-package, showing the license agreement before unpacking and installing into the system. BTW, Sun Java is being distributed by SuSE 10.0 and 9.3. Can we enter such an agreement with Sun? </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I think the current solution wie have with java package is sufficient. Do you disagree? Can you please rephrase your question, because I think I did not understand you completly.</blockquote><div> I find the solution sufficient, but users have had all kinds of problems generating their own debs, not to mention that the solution isn't as "Just Works" as Ubuntu should make it. Perhaps for Dapper we need a GUI tool for generating .debs for Java, or the default inclusion of Java. </div> As far as Blackdown, it doesn't run some programs like Azureus well, some users told me. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">-- regards,     Reinhard -- ubuntu-backports mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com"> ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports">http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports</a> </blockquote></div>