<div>Hi Jonathan, I believe that Krusader would be a great addition to Kubuntu. I think we should have a choice besides Konquerer plus other features. </div> <div> </div> <div>Thanks.</div> <div>Regards</div> <div>Kennedy Kasina  </div> <div>On 11/17/05, Jonathan Riddell <<a href="mailto:jriddell@ubuntu.com">jriddell@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> Krusader would like their file manager in Kubuntu.  Anyone have any opinions? Jonathan ----- Forwarded message from Matej Urban?i? <<a href="mailto:matej.urban@gmail.com">matej.urban@gmail.com</a>> ----- Dear Jonathan, My name is Matej Urban?i? a member of the Krusader Krew. Krusader users (and the Krusader Krew) would love to see Krusader included on the CD and DVD version of Kubuntu. We think that our user base and the quality of our work speak for themselves, so we'll try to show how Krusader is really becoming an important part of the KDE community. We'd appreciate it, if you take a  moment and read the message. Please excuse me, if I'm sending this to the wrong person - I'd appreciate a redirection to the correct email address. Let's start with the obvious. Many users of Windows use Total Commander. Upon first arriving on the Linux scene, they expect an appropriate replacement. We know that Krusader is the replacement they are looking for, because on Total Commander's site the author recommends Krusader as an alternative for Linux users. <a href="http://www.ghisler.com/efaqgeneral.htm#Linux">http://www.ghisler.com/efaqgeneral.htm#Linux</a> <a href="http://Distrowatch.com">Distrowatch.com</a> included Krusader in summer 2005. There you can see that krusader is very popular among distros. Versions 1.5 was included on 6 distros, version 1.51 on 7, version 1.60.0 on 16 and 1.70.0-beta, even thou it has not been released yet as stable, on 3!. We can count well over 100 people that sent patches, code, reported bug fixes, translations, which shows a large involvement for a small project. After introducing User actions the number of contributions raised considerably. Among them you can find all types, from skillful developers to basic users. Our searchers found that among 42 active projects there are only 8 successful twin panel file managers, where 6 of them are commercial and based on MS Windows environment.  Another is a fairly basic twin panel manager for GNOME environment and the very well known Midnight Commander for the console environment, but also slow in development and lacking many modern functionalities. We also have calls from GNOME users who also run Krusader, and they even ask about a port. No need to mention that Krusader is the only real, KDE-based, twin-panel file manager harvesting all the power of the desktop. On <a href="http://Freshmeat.net">Freshmeat.net </a> you can see that Krusader is the most evolved twin-panel file manager with fairly short release cycles, while most others listed have passed 2 years of inactivity. <a href="http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=%2Bcommander&filter=&filter_scope=&orderby=date_updated_unix_DESC"> http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=%2Bcommander&filter=&filter_scope=&orderby=date_updated_unix_DESC</a> On <a href="http://Kde.org">Kde.org</a>'s scale of the highest rated, Krusader is always among the top 10, depending on the number of new updates that are listed, which are taking first places for the short period of time. In peaceful periods, Krusader competes with applications like amarok and k3b for first place. <a href="http://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0">http://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0</a> Krusader is well past the ordinary twin-panel file manager. After considerable work on the viewer and editor we got great feedback about our internal editor's support for different  programing languages like HTML, XHTML C++, Perl, PHP and others, which shows that some programmers use Krusader for writing and editing code. Why is this so important? Well, a lot of users prefer twin panel file managers over single-panel ones like Explorer, Konqueror, Nautilus, and similar, for many reasons. The most important one is the full keyboard orientation and constantly linked panels. A reference page on Orthodox File Managers (OFM) such as Midnight Commander, Norton Commander, Total Commander, Krusader, etc., is at <a href="http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/index.shtml">http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/index.shtml</a>. The attention Krusader gets in this URL speaks for itself. The Krew gets a lot of help from the community. Compiling binaries is probably the most noticeable. Some binary packages are actively supported by the Krusader Krew for beta versions, while some binaries come from our users. Stables are usually compiled by official maintainers. <a href="http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/krusader">http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/krusader</a>. If you are still not totally convinced, then please check-out Krusader's features at <a href="http://www.krusader.org/handbook/features.html">http://www.krusader.org/handbook/features.html</a> and at <a href="http://linuxtoday.com/developer/2005060900426NWCYSW">http://linuxtoday.com/developer/2005060900426NWCYSW </a> We all can benefit from including Krusader on Kubuntu CD. Kubuntu users will get another great KDE product, and we, a larger specter of users. Thank you very much for reading through this mail! Should you need more information, have questions, or wish to discuss Krusader further, please contact us. Thank you. Matej Urban?i? - on behalf of the Krusader Krew -- kubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com"> kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel">http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div>